(20 Mar 2014, 7:05 pm)ADLEnviro wrote Totally agree there, I would have also put and don't give a toss on the end though.
I feel sorry for people that read the wrong information that nexus display.............an example below is for the bus stop at Gilley Law turning circle where one stop is used for both directions. Looking at this timetable the 5 and 5A only operate between Gilley Law and Sunderland but the truth is Monday to Saturday day time it operates to Doxford Park. The timetable that is displayed runs to the Docks and what makes this even worse is the section between Sunderland and the Docks that is not shown is the part that Nexus secure.
Gilley Law Bus Stop Timetable
Using the same service for another example. The timetable is a mess for the 5A as nexus think Monday to Saturday it operates Thorney Close, North Moor, Moorside, Doxford Park, Farrringdon then Gilley Law. On a sunday they think it terminates at North Moor and runs empty to Gilly Law for its next trip.
Nexus Service 5/5A timetable
Just a reminder this is the organisation that (think they) can do a better job at running bus services.
(20 Apr 2014, 6:30 am)Dan wrote Has anyone seen the revised timetable format at stops? Very much like the one suggested for QCS without the ticket prices. Does contain brand names for GNE services which is good though.
Do think the old format was better. Not as smart/official though. Easier to read by far.
(20 Apr 2014, 9:07 am)Dan wrote Do you still use the 56 to get to college or whatever it is? Think you did before, at least..?
If you do, you'll see an example of it at Nissan. Just make sure you sit on the bottom deck.
(20 Apr 2014, 9:25 am)Michael wrote I do but i wont be using it till Tuesday for going past Nissan but im popping to the town later so may have a look at the timetable there.
Is it orange for the 56 with its logo?
(20 Apr 2014, 9:28 am)Dan wrote It's in the red/black format. It just says in text "Fab Fifty Six".. I think.
Not sure if you'll be able to or not, but on the Nexus website if you navigate your way to Nissan, the online version may have been updated. I'll try and check but the signal isn't at its best heading to Kirkby Stephen.
(20 Apr 2014, 12:49 pm)BJ10VUS wrote Found one of the new timetables... here's Washington Road. It's simpler to understand, which is good, but I'm not a fan of the design myself.
http://liners.nexus.org.uk/23147.pdf
(01 Jun 2014, 6:07 pm)Dan wrote There's a few examples of that happening in Washington too, Adam. It's even more irritating that customers think this is a Go North East fault and complain to Go North East when these services take longer than x minutes as shown on the bus stop timetable.
Regarding the new design - the one on Newcastle Road opposite the Whatsheaf (X3 terminus) has been updated to the new style and it was hideous to read compared to the old style. I found myself having to point at the timetable and follow it along with my finger like a little old woman. It still read 'at xx and yy mins past each hour' too.
EDIT: Not sure if it was a mistake on the printed timetable or not, but it's not like that on the online version:
http://liners.nexus.org.uk/24020.pdf
(01 Jun 2014, 6:18 pm)Michael wrote The 2 next to Sunderland Uni have being updated to - http://liners.nexus.org.uk/24245.pdf
Slightly different to the ones on Washington road for the 50/56 - due to the fact that theirs more services using that road
(01 Jun 2014, 6:07 pm)Dan wrote There's a few examples of that happening in Washington too, Adam. It's even more irritating that customers think this is a Go North East fault and complain to Go North East when these services take longer than x minutes as shown on the bus stop timetable.
Regarding the new design - the one on Newcastle Road opposite the Whatsheaf (X3 terminus) has been updated to the new style and it was hideous to read compared to the old style. I found myself having to point at the timetable and follow it along with my finger like a little old woman. It still read 'at xx and yy mins past each hour' too.
(01 Jun 2014, 5:52 pm)AdamY wrote Does anyone care to explain how two buses departing from the same stop, traversing the exact same route, have two different estimated times of how long it takes to get from Rowlands Gill to Newcastle?
http://liners.nexus.org.uk/20011.pdf
According to the timetable, service 45 takes 29 minutes while service 46 takes 35 minutes. Service 47, which goes a slightly different way, takes 30 minutes.
I didn't really want to put this in the 'Life's Little Mysteries' thread but perhaps I should have done!
I wonder if there any more examples of this timetabling anomaly.
(Yes, I know it's Nexus and expect nothing less!)
(01 Jun 2014, 6:33 pm)Andreos Constantopolous wrote There have been examples of it for years with the stops I have used on a regular basis.
No idea why.
The only thing I could come up with, was the popularity of the service i.e if it was popular, it took longer - if it was less so, then quicker.
No idea if that was the case with each example or not.
On a different note, the timetables on Chester Front St have changed. No idea how long the new versions have been in place, but much easier on the eye, than the traditional cluttered version.
(01 Jun 2014, 7:18 pm)Dan wrote Don't think there's that much of a popularity difference between "Red Kite" services 45/46 to cause a 15 minute difference in journey times!
FTAO: eezypeazy - this would be a perfect time to get a dig in about QCS, if they can't manage to publish timetables correctly!
(01 Jun 2014, 7:18 pm)Dan wrote Don't think there's that much of a popularity difference between "Red Kite" services 45/46 to cause a 15 minute difference in journey times!
FTAO: eezypeazy - this would be a perfect time to get a dig in about QCS, if they can't manage to publish timetables correctly!
(01 Jun 2014, 7:18 pm)Dan wrote Don't think there's that much of a popularity difference between "Red Kite" services 45/46 to cause a 15 minute difference in journey times!
FTAO: eezypeazy - this would be a perfect time to get a dig in about QCS, if they can't manage to publish timetables correctly!
(01 Jun 2014, 7:37 pm)citaro5284 wrote
(01 Jun 2014, 7:45 pm)aureolin wrote That's my wires crossed. It was in fact our good friends over at Passenger Focus that suggested that. Probably based on the 0.000000005% of bus users they surveyed.
(27 Mar 2014, 7:41 pm)eezypeazy wrote You're still not able to understand sampling, are you? And how samples are representative? And how the same technique has been rigourously applied across the country?
(02 Jun 2014, 8:34 am)JakeSavage wrote The timings on the nexus bus stops are based on the quickest scheduled journey. The rather odd timing of the 45 is based on the very first trip (0529 ish?) which doesn't encounter much traffic (cars or passengers). This explains the wide discrepancy to the 46 and 47.
In general terms, if a service has an evening variation, that's the point-to-point timings nexus use. Personally, I think these timings raise customer expectations too much. I'd much prefer they used general daytime timings, as they are generally more robust for connections/ journey planning, etc. and if a bus arrives at destination point earlier than customers expectation, this would certainly excite less comment...