(14 Jul 2014, 6:40 pm)JoshP wrote Regarding the Newcastle NHS service, does anyone know why the Darlington/Durham NHS hospital services H1 & H2 were not extended or renewed? Was it because they were losing money or not enough usage?

I don't know the answer to that one sadly, I would assume that the NHS trust just didn't want to pay for it any longer hence the contract didn't get renewed. I am guessing the usage figures etc would be taken into account when making their decision so that's probably a partial answer.

(14 Jul 2014, 6:45 pm)tyresmoke wrote I don't know the answer to that one sadly, I would assume that the NHS trust just didn't want to pay for it any longer hence the contract didn't get renewed. I am guessing the usage figures etc would be taken into account when making their decision so that's probably a partial answer.

Maybe running their own buses like Hartlepool/North Tees now?

The H1/2 was very rarely used since all of the work it used to take can now be done by cpmputers, there was still a few parcels to go but due to very low useage it got wothdrawb, arriva saw how much money it was loosing so it pulled the plug before it was too late

PB0002717/16 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Durham and New Brancepeth given service number 48 effective from 20-Jul-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/379 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Bearpark
Finish Point: Bearpark
Via:
Service Number: 148
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 21-JUL-2014
Other Details: Shuttle service sunday - Saturday

What is the 148 for?

(17 Jul 2014, 3:41 pm)Tom wrote PB0002717/16 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Durham and New Brancepeth given service number 48 effective from 20-Jul-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/379 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Bearpark
Finish Point: Bearpark
Via:
Service Number: 148
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 21-JUL-2014
Other Details: Shuttle service sunday - Saturday

What is the 148 for?

Aldin Bridge is closed.
The 148 is a temporary shuttle service.

(17 Jul 2014, 3:44 pm)Jimmi wrote Aldin Bridge is closed.
The 148 is a temporary shuttle service.

Cheers!
How long for?

(17 Jul 2014, 3:46 pm)Tom wrote Cheers!
How long for?

Its due to last 4-5 weeks.

Aldin Bridge road closure timetables.

Service 48
http://durham.pindarcreative.co.uk/tt2/48_Temporary.pdf

Bearpark shuttle service 148
http://durham.pindarcreative.co.uk/tt2/1...mbined.pdf

PB0002717/208 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Darlington and Red Hall Estate given service number 11 effective from 14-Jul-2014. To amend Route.

PB0002717/209 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Darlington and Firth Moor given service number 13A/13B effective from 14-Jul-2014. To amend Route.

PB0002717/210 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Skerne Park and Harrowgate Farm given service number 14b/14/14a effective from 14-Jul-2014. To amend Route.

PB0002717/291 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Hurworth and Trees Park Village given service number 12/12A/12a effective from 14-Jul-2014. To amend Route.

X1 from 31st August 2014

X2 from 31st August 2014

As you can see, there is the addition of an AM X1 from Stockton to Framwellgate Moor and a PM return trip to Middlesbrough.

(25 Jul 2014, 2:49 pm)Michael wrote PB0002717/208 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Darlington and Red Hall Estate given service number 11 effective from 14-Jul-2014. To amend Route.

PB0002717/209 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Darlington and Firth Moor given service number 13A/13B effective from 14-Jul-2014. To amend Route.

PB0002717/210 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Skerne Park and Harrowgate Farm given service number 14b/14/14a effective from 14-Jul-2014. To amend Route.

PB0002717/291 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Hurworth and Trees Park Village given service number 12/12A/12a effective from 14-Jul-2014. To amend Route.

I'm guessing this has to do with the new junction on stone bridge?

(08 Jul 2014, 12:44 pm)Michael wrote PB0002032/61 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Haydon Bridge given service number 85 effective from 31-Aug-2014. To amend Timetable.

PB0002032/63 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Haydon Bridge and Carlisle given service number 685 effective from 31-Aug-2014. To amend Timetable.

PB0002032/164 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Hexham given service number X85 effective from 31-Aug-2014. To amend Timetable.

This will be for the changes to 685/85 to reflect Arriva operating the 185 between Haltwhistle and Carlisle.

(25 Jul 2014, 8:18 pm)northern156 wrote This will be for the changes to 685/85 to reflect Arriva operating the 185 between Haltwhistle and Carlisle.

Also an opportunity to review a few journeys?
I saw an evening X85 (departing 5 mins after GNE's X85) the other day with 3 people on, compared to GNE's full bus.

(25 Jul 2014, 8:55 pm)Dan wrote Also an opportunity to review a few journeys?
I saw an evening X85 (departing 5 mins after GNE's X85) the other day with 3 people on, compared to GNE's full bus.

I think some of it may have to do with the school services they interwork with, or used to, too!

PB0002032/478 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Carlisle
Finish Point: Haltwhistle
Via:
Service Number: 185
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 31-AUG-2014
Other Details: Monday - Saturday

PB0002717/291 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Hurworth and Trees Park Village given service number 12/12A/12a effective from 26-Aug-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/243 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Belmont Park & Ride and Sniperley Park & Ride given service number P1 effective from 26-Oct-2014.

PB0002717/244 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Howlands Park & Ride and Durham given service number P2 effective from 26-Oct-2014.

Couple of late ones:

PB0002032/61 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Newcastle and Haydon Bridge given service number 85 effective from 31-Aug-2014. To amend Timetable.

PB0002032/152 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Newcastle General Hospital and Great Park given service number 46 effective from 31-Aug-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

Is service 193 in Whitby coming back or not

(01 Sep 2014, 7:35 pm)jaimz13 wrote Is service 193 in Whitby coming back or not

It's a one day service for the Egton Show, and operated on 20th August. It should be back next year

Fair few changes in the County Durham & Darlington areas now registered for October...

Oh dear, changes once again to numbers etc....

So now Sunderland will have

22 - Sunderland to Durham - Half Hourly?
23 - Sunderland to Hartlepool - Half Hourly?
X21 - Sunderland to Peterlee - hourly Mon-Sat, up to every 30 minutes in peak times Mon-Fri

I'm glad it looks like Arriva are giving us a new service, it is their home city of course, shame they can't give us a few more routes!

(03 Sep 2014, 8:27 am)tyresmoke wrote Fair few changes in the County Durham & Darlington areas now registered for October...

PB0002717/14 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Colburn given service number 26A/X26/X27 effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/21 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Arnison Centre and Sherburn Village given service number 64 effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/28 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Durham and Hartlepool given service number 22 effective from 26-Oct-2014.

PB0002717/181 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Croxdale and St Johns Bishop Auckland given service number 865 effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/200 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Middlesbrough given service number 66/X66 effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/202 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Mowden given service number 3 effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/203 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Minors Crescent given service number 4 effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/205 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Ferryhill given service number 8/8A effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/210 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Skerne Park and Harrowgate Farm given service number 14/14a/14b effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/219 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Peterlee given service number 21 effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/220 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Hartlepool and Sunderland given service number 23 effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/257 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Durham and Sunderland given service number 24/24X effective from 26-Oct-2014.

PB0002717/258 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham and Cockfield given service number 6 effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/273 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and West Park given service number 19 effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/292 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Tow Law given service number 1/1B/X1 effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/293 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham and Brasside given service number 62 effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/335 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Peterlee given service number 21a/21A effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/340 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Willington and St Johns School given service number 807 effective from 26-Oct-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/380 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Peterlee
Finish Point: Sunderland
Via:
Service Number: X21
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 26-OCT-2014
Other Details: Operates hourly Mon-Sat, up to every 30 minutes in peak times Mon-Fri

PB0002717/381 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Durham
Finish Point: Whitesmocks
Via:
Service Number: 61
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 26-OCT-2014
Other Details: Monday - Saturday

PB0002717/382 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Durham
Finish Point: Sunderland
Via:
Service Number: 22
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 26-OCT-2014
Other Details: Sunday - Saturday

PB0002717/383 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Durham
Finish Point: Hartlepool
Via:
Service Number: 24
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 26-OCT-2014
Other Details: Sunday - Saturday

Was wondering why the 22 and 24 were being cancelled and then looked further down - swapping numbers?
It looks like they are upping the game between Peterlee and Sunderland in the peaks too!

Is it running off a 21a?

(03 Sep 2014, 8:40 am)Andreos Constantopolous wrote Was wondering why the 22 and 24 were being cancelled and then looked further down - swapping numbers?
It looks like they are upping the game between Peterlee and Sunderland in the peaks too!

Is it running off a 21a?

You know what some people are like, it will confuse them!

Shame they can't give Sunderland a few more routes!

(03 Sep 2014, 8:40 am)Andreos Constantopolous wrote Was wondering why the 22 and 24 were being cancelled and then looked further down - swapping numbers?
It looks like they are upping the game between Peterlee and Sunderland in the peaks too!

Is it running off a 21a?

The X21 will run off the 21 during the day, with the additional peak journeys being operated by Stockton (am) and Durham (pm)

(03 Sep 2014, 8:54 am)tyresmoke wrote The X21 will run off the 21 during the day, with the additional peak journeys being operated by Stockton (am) and Durham (pm)

What buses will we see being used on the 3 services?

(03 Sep 2014, 8:57 am)Michael wrote What buses will we see being used on the 3 services?

I think Darlington are continuing to use Solos on the 21, Stockton use Scanias on 21A (which is what the morning X21 will run off) and Durham I'm not too sure but I would imagine a Pulsar. Unless it runs off the 24X in which case it'll be a decker.

(03 Sep 2014, 9:00 am)tyresmoke wrote I think Darlington are continuing to use Solos on the 21, Stockton use Scanias on 21A (which is what the morning X21 will run off) and Durham I'm not too sure but I would imagine a Pulsar. Unless it runs off the 24X in which case it'll be a decker.

Thanks, the loading's must be decent from Sunderland to Peterlee, if we getting a 3rd service there, be interesting to see what GNE do, when they see they have launched a 3rd service to Peterlee...

If these contracts go ahead, i really hope Arriva get Sunderland's lot!

(03 Sep 2014, 8:45 am)Michael wrote You know what some people are like, it will confuse them!

Shame they can't give Sunderland a few more routes!

I think the market in Sunderland is sewn up to be honest.

Going back a few years, there were probably more opportunities - the frequent services offered by the other two and the death of the villages in East Durham, have probably seen the end of those opportunities.

The only thing they can do, is expand on what is already on offer, by offering potentially faster journey times - such as the x21.

(03 Sep 2014, 8:54 am)tyresmoke wrote The X21 will run off the 21 during the day, with the additional peak journeys being operated by Stockton (am) and Durham (pm)

I wonder if it will help with the drivers breaks at all?
Often see vehicles heading light on an evening out of Park Lane, back to Belmont too.

(03 Sep 2014, 9:05 am)Andreos Constantopolous wrote I think the market in Sunderland is sewn up to be honest.

Going back a few years, there were probably more opportunities - the frequent services offered by the other two and the death of the villages in East Durham, have probably seen the end of those opportunities.

The only thing they can do, is expand on what is already on offer, by offering potentially faster journey times - such as the x21.

Ye, not many places they could go, as Stagecoach and Go North East both have established routes.

I do hope Arriva win LOT 1 from NEXUS, if it happens