On the fleetlist why are 7522-7528 down as Dennis Trident 3's?

(03 Aug 2014, 10:40 pm)mb134 wrote On the fleetlist why are 7522-7528 down as Dennis Trident 3's?

Because they are?
Unless it was a typo?

(03 Aug 2014, 10:41 pm)Tom wrote Because they are?
Unless it was a typo?

Pretty sure Trident 3's have three axles. So yeah must have been

(03 Aug 2014, 10:41 pm)Tom wrote Because they are?
Unless it was a typo?

They're E40D, the new designation for the Trident 2 Mk2 (or whatever they were before that). All ADL products are Ex0D chassis these days.

(03 Aug 2014, 10:34 pm)tyresmoke wrote And between 1645-1800 when the majority of people are going home there is 308s at 1648, 1703, 1718, 1733 and 1748, every 15 minutes. While the 309s are at 1656, 1711, 1726, 1742, 1758 (WBay only)
I don't think there is much of a point to be proven.

Between 4 and 5pm is the busier period with a mix of shoppers and commuters AND students heading to Henderson Hall and other student accommodation sites. After the first few runs between 5 and 515, things tend to quiet down a bit. After 5, it's mainly commuters who tend to go for the first few buses that leave.

(03 Aug 2014, 6:06 pm)Jimmi wrote Same in Darlington with the 7, Sapphire drivers often seem to be on town services and the X66, one morning on a Framwellgate Moor journey the driver said its only the second time he's driven up there.

The Sapphire WiFi is often slow, and often cuts off between Neville Cross and Ferryhill.

Different duties often through up something different with the Darlington sapphire drivers it to be the hours in

One of the duties does 2 7s then 2 x66
One does 2 7s then 5 2s
One does 2 7s then 12s

On a Sunday one does 9s a 66 to whinfield and then a 7 and finishes at aycliffe

(03 Aug 2014, 10:44 pm)Kuyoyo wrote They're E40D, the new designation for the Trident 2 Mk2 (or whatever they were before that). All ADL products are Ex0D chassis these days.

Based on other fleet lists, I find the two (Dennis Trident Mk2 and E40D) are pretty interchangable with neither being favoured nor accepted more than the other. Both are often included in fleet lists, from my experience.

As for why it's down as a Trident 3 - Scott updated the fleetlist yesterday, so he's to blame this time, not me!
Fairly sure they will be Trident 2s though.

(03 Aug 2014, 9:10 pm)aureolin wrote I stand corrected, but I find it quite surprising. I would have thought that logistically it would make sense to do that? I know that we maximise working hours for our shift workers, otherwise we would need more staff to cover the same roles.

But it is not that straight forward compared to working in an office lets say. You can only drive so long before a break, then after your break you then need to find a bus that the driver can go on. There is no point finishing your break at 1010, but there is no bus until 1020, you are just extending the meal break. Some duties might only do a couple of hours driving before meal but have along second half, but might only have about 7 hours driving in total. All bus companies use scheduling software (most use either Austrics or Omnibus) which builds the duties the most efficent way possible.

We've discussed the quality of Sapphire more so recently due to the conversion of another route in the North East to said specification.

Although the article doesn't focus on the North East, it is perhaps worth a read to see opinions on it from beyond the North East...
http://publictransportexperience.blogspo...2.html?m=1

And spot the photo from yours truly which has featured - as the blogger didn't contact me about it, I hadn't realised it was featured until I got to the end of the article...but hey ho!

Does anybody know which vehicles are based at the Alnwick outstation?

Roadworks at Harrowgate Hill Roundabout must be bad today as three Sapphire Pulsars pulled into Durham Bus Station at once.

Personally I think arriva should try and get some more mini pointer because the 57 to whitley bay will be a little short off them due to the pointers going on to 35

(04 Aug 2014, 4:18 pm)Philly rf wrote Personally I think arriva should try and get some more mini pointer because the 57 to whitley bay will be a little short off them due to the pointers going on to 35

They shouldn't be on the 35 - 35s should be entirely decker-operated until the Streetlites enter service

B10BLE 4508 entered service at Stockton today on service 27.

What is Arriva child fare in durham county?
Was asked this question by a friend but i don't really know!
Is it under 5 free,5 to 16 half fare....

(05 Aug 2014, 5:05 pm)buznut wrote What is Arriva child fare in durham county?
Was asked this question by a friend but i don't really know!
Is it under 5 free,5 to 16 half fare....

5 to 14 are half fare. 15 and above, full fare.

I just received a teen card for my daughter who is aged 8, as half fare can cost a lot, with this teen card if the half fare is over £1 then if she shows the card then she only pays flat fare of a pound. but cant used the teen card on the X24 Durham-metrocentre but can be used on the X2 Durham to Newcastle.

Teen Card Application
Send these together with a £5 cheque or postal order payable to Arriva North East

What happens if I lose my card?
Unfortunately, you will have to pay a further £10 if you lose your card and need a replacement.

From:- http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/teencard/

Seems excessive.


Then there's:-

And when can I use it?
You can use your Teen Card after 6pm on Monday to Friday, at any time on Saturdays, Sundays and Bank Holidays. You will also be able to use your card after 9am during most school holidays.

(05 Aug 2014, 7:21 pm)G-CPTN wrote From:- http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/teencard/

Seems excessive.

But by the savings that the teencard will make from pound a journey to compare to roughly 2 or 3 quid pound per journey from half adult fare. as theres no child half fare return journeys.

(05 Aug 2014, 7:21 pm)G-CPTN wrote From:- http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/teencard/

Seems excessive.


Then there's:-

the children be in school during the day so their cant use it anway, it comes in useful during holiday time especially the 6 week holiday. In the long run its worth it.

(05 Aug 2014, 7:25 pm)cbma06 wrote But by the savings that the teencard will make from pound a journey to compare to roughly 2 or 3 quid pound per journey from half adult fare. as theres no child half fare return journeys.

There is half returns available on all routes as far as I know? But I agree a teen card is well worth the money, as it's often well over a £1 for a half single on longer routes, especially in County Durham!

(05 Aug 2014, 7:48 pm)tyresmoke wrote There is half returns available on all routes as far as I know? But I agree a teen card is well worth the money, as it's often well over a £1 for a half single on longer routes, especially in County Durham!

Aye they are. It'll be handy in Northumberland too! Fares like £2.50 Morpeth to Regent Centre.

(05 Aug 2014, 7:48 pm)tyresmoke wrote There is half returns available on all routes as far as I know? But I agree a teen card is well worth the money, as it's often well over a £1 for a half single on longer routes, especially in County Durham!

Used mine from Newcastle to Berwick back when it was 90p, incredible value

Saw the 52 today - was quite busy. Seems passenger numbers have increased all of a sudden!

The 46 was empty heading to the General Hospital.

My dad said he stood nearly an hour waiting for the 7 this afternoon - he got to the stop at 13:25 and a service 7 didn't show up until 14:05 and the driver drove straight past with about 3 people on board and the next one didn't emerge until 14:15 and he could only just could get on as there was almost no room to stand. I know the 7 is heavily delayed but you should still not be driving past people especially when the next bus is 10 minutes behind.

This happened to me once too and the bus behind started to have problems with the ticket machine which made me even later.

When that happens it's usually something to do with what the traffic controller says, if it's been rang in that he was xx mins late it usually happens to be that the first bus is not in service and dropping people off only then once he's empty it will go light to pick some of its time up

(06 Aug 2014, 10:10 am)Stuart Phin wrote When that happens it's usually something to do with what the traffic controller says, if it's been rang in that he was xx mins late it usually happens to be that the first bus is not in service and dropping people off only then once he's empty it will go light to pick some of its time up

I would have thought the Controller using the AVL system they have would have checked to see how the service 7 behind was operating before he regulated it?

7509 replaced 7519 on the X22 today (around 4pm) and I saw no other non-Sapphire E400's on the routes, (I saw 14 of the 15 allocated) so maybe Ashington are getting somewhere, hopefully...

(06 Aug 2014, 4:10 pm)mb134 wrote 7509 replaced 7519 on the X22 today (around 4pm) and I saw no other non-Sapphire E400's on the routes, (I saw 13 of the 14 allocated) so maybe Ashington are getting somewhere, hopefully...

There should be 15 allocated to it, with one spare bus (total 16)

(06 Aug 2014, 4:16 pm)tyresmoke wrote There should be 15 allocated to it, with one spare bus (total 16)

Sorry miscounted my list also didn't see any Spectras in Ashington yard earlier have these already been taken away?