(27 Aug 2014, 9:20 pm)Dan wrote I had the joy of one on the 49 earlier... Late, as you'd imagine, and the driver stopped for a rest on the bank - which is when the 49 behind (a Merc) overtook!

I was gutted because it was 13 minutes late by the time it got to my stop, and the run behind was a Trident.

The Presidents are the same, absolutley awful.

(27 Aug 2014, 9:22 pm)Michael wrote If 1 turned up on a route i need, i would get on, if i like ot or not.

Same as when the lime gets new buses... what ever it is, ill still get on it...

Mind, if there's a Merc coming up the road on the Silver Arrows... I know which one I'd go for!

(27 Aug 2014, 9:21 pm)56everyday wrote Oh yes!!! Give me one of those any day!!! They were hopeless... Whenever a 28 didn't turn up I assumed it had stopped and Beamish too long and got taken in as an exhibit.

Am I the ONLY one who thinks that the DAFs were magnificent??

(27 Aug 2014, 9:22 pm)Michael wrote If 1 turned up on a route i need, i would get on, if i like ot or not.

Same as when the lime gets new buses... what ever it is, ill still get on it...

Speaking of Lime I had an fully branded 8 the other day stuck doing 15mph, driver tried to reset many a time between Park Lane and the A19 but couldn't do anything with hit. He bottled it, half were transferred to the 2C, half were transferred to the 78

(27 Aug 2014, 9:24 pm)Marcus wrote Am I the ONLY one who thinks that the DAFs were magnificent??

Magnificent...
In their own special way...

(27 Aug 2014, 9:23 pm)Tom wrote I was gutted because it was 13 minutes late by the time it got to my stop, and the run behind was a Trident.

The Presidents are the same, absolutley awful.

I don't mind the old GNE Presidents, but I'm not a big fan of the ex London ones especially the Prontos

(27 Aug 2014, 9:26 pm)Jimmi wrote I don't mind the old GNE Presidents, but I'm not a big fan of the ex London ones especially the Prontos

The engines on them sound like they need a full overhaul or replacement

(27 Aug 2014, 9:24 pm)Marcus wrote Am I the ONLY one who thinks that the DAFs were magnificent??

I quite liked them too (just hope gtom doesn't see this post!)

Some of the Worms were awful when stationary though. The rattle wasn't just an ordinary rattle... It felt like a tractor was plowing over your ear.

(27 Aug 2014, 9:24 pm)Marcus wrote Am I the ONLY one who thinks that the DAFs were magnificent??

Possibly. I couldn't stand the Arriva ones and I recently rode an ex GNE example on the 21A a months back and my back was in pain from the seats.

You just better hope that gtom is not reading this.

(27 Aug 2014, 9:29 pm)Jimmi wrote Possibly. I couldn't stand the Arriva ones and I recently rode an ex GNE example on the 21A a months back and my back was in pain from the seats.

You just better hope that gtom is not reading this.

Have to admit the seating is pretty poor on them.

Temsa Avenue vs DAF?

(27 Aug 2014, 9:30 pm)Dan wrote Have to admit the seating is pretty poor on them.

Temsa Avenue vs DAF?

Urban 90??

(27 Aug 2014, 9:28 pm)Dan wrote I quite liked them too (just hope gtom doesn't see this post!)

Some of the Worms were awful when stationary though. The rattle wasn't just an ordinary rattle... It felt like a tractor was plowing over your ear.

Are you and Marcus on something?!?!
They are quite possibly the worst buses I have been on, and to be quite frank they are useless. I dread to think how much lost mileage was accounted for on the Waggonway.

(27 Aug 2014, 9:31 pm)mb134 wrote Urban 90??

Think they were Fainsa (Cosmic)?

(27 Aug 2014, 9:28 pm)Dan wrote I quite liked them too (just hope gtom doesn't see this post!)

Some of the Worms were awful when stationary though. The rattle wasn't just an ordinary rattle... It felt like a tractor was plowing over your ear.

I'm probably on his ignore list by now!

(27 Aug 2014, 9:32 pm)Marcus wrote I'm probably on his ignore list by now!

Wouldn't be surprised - you've sinned! Confirming your love for a DAF... How dare you!

(27 Aug 2014, 9:32 pm)Tom wrote Think they were Fainsa (Cosmic)?

Ah right ok, just I knew Arrivas early Lowlanders are DAF's and wondered whether GNE's had the same seating.
Edit: Just googled Fainsa, how does anyone survive a journey on that??!!

(27 Aug 2014, 9:30 pm)Dan wrote Have to admit the seating is pretty poor on them.

Temsa Avenue vs DAF?

The ex GNE DAF seats are far worse than a Tesma, I've managed two hours on the X93 on a Tesma and I was fine, two and a half hours on Urban 90s seats on the X61 was fine too, but 35 minutes on the 21A on those seats and I was in pain.

(27 Aug 2014, 9:33 pm)Dan wrote Wouldn't be surprised - you've sinned! Confirming your love for a DAF... How dare you!

Probs has stuff like this splattered all over his home!

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/chriswhite...D_w_IS_all

(27 Aug 2014, 9:36 pm)Jimmi wrote The ex GNE DAF seats are far worse than a Tesma, I've managed two hours on the X93 on a Tesma and I was fine, two and a half hours on Urban 90s seats on the X61 was fine too, but 35 minutes on the 21A on those seats and I was in pain.

Worse than Urban 90's, how bad are these seats, have they got spikes on them or something

(27 Aug 2014, 9:32 pm)Marcus wrote I'm probably on his ignore list by now!

That Yellow one which spent some time at Washington a few years ago and often saw use on the M1 was quite nice I thought, to be honest I quite liked them as I often used them when they were on the 50 also, they were better than those SPD's that's for sure.

#AnotherMemberAddedToGtomsIgnoreListIGuess
#HashtagsOnNEB

(27 Aug 2014, 9:36 pm)Marcus wrote Probs has stuff like this splattered all over his home!

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/chriswhite...D_w_IS_all

Worse than that - he'll have something like this, cropped down so it only shows the prestiges: https://flickr.com/photos/wrexhamtransport/14879086585

(27 Aug 2014, 9:36 pm)Jimmi wrote The ex GNE DAF seats are far worse than a Tesma, I've managed two hours on the X93 on a Tesma and I was fine, two and a half hours on Urban 90s seats on the X61 was fine too, but 35 minutes on the 21A on those seats and I was in pain.

The seats on 4001/6/7 aren't that bad! Urban90s can be decent if they have padding - and most of Arriva's examples don't have any. As for Temsas, the one time I was faced with one on the X93, I waited an extra half hour just to avoid sitting on plastic for 2 and a bit hours all the way to Scarborough.

(27 Aug 2014, 9:40 pm)Tom wrote Worse than that - he'll have something like this, cropped down so it only shows the prestiges: https://flickr.com/photos/wrexhamtransport/14879086585

4983!!! No!!!!!!!

(27 Aug 2014, 9:38 pm)mb134 wrote Worse than Urban 90's, how bad are these seats, have they got spikes on them or something

Not far off, a metal bar digs into your back because they are that worn down.

I find some Urban90s seats are not too bad, like the ones in the Scarlet Band Enviro 200s but Arriva's are quite worn which is why I try and sit at the back on proper bus seats.

(27 Aug 2014, 9:42 pm)Jimmi wrote Not far off, a metal bar digs into your back because they are that worn down.

I find some Urban90s seats are not too bad, like the ones in the Scarlet Band Enviro 200s but Arriva's are quite worn which is why I try and sit at the back on proper bus seats.

That must hurt for long journeys!! Same here on Arrivas Lowlanders, however for short journeys I can tolerate them

(27 Aug 2014, 9:44 pm)mb134 wrote That must hurt for long journeys!! Same here on Arrivas Lowlanders, however for short journeys I can tolerate them

Two and a half hours on 7444 on service X61 was a bit much, stud up whist it was loading in Whitby, made sure to get the back seat on the return journey.

I don't want to stir anything up here or anything and I'm not talking about all drivers but only a VERY small minority. I've noticed across two operators that several passengers have made complaints about drivers who are not only late, but are driving very slowly (i.e, not late by sticking to the speed limit but doing 20 in a 30). I've personally experienced it a few times. Anyone else had any similar experiences?

(27 Aug 2014, 9:53 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote I don't want to stir anything up here or anything and I'm not talking about all drivers but only a VERY small minority. I've noticed across two operators that several passengers have made complaints about drivers who are not only late, but are driving very slowly (i.e, not late by sticking to the speed limit but doing 20 in a 30). I've personally experienced it a few times. Anyone else had any similar experiences?

Yeah it annoys me when drivers drive slow and end up falling behind the timetable, it only ever seems to happen to me when I want to catch another bus with a very tight connection time, like on the 7 once we arrived about 6 minutes late which resulted in me missing the 24 which was pulling out as we were arriving in Durham Bus Station and I then had to wait another 30 minutes for the next one.

(27 Aug 2014, 9:53 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote I don't want to stir anything up here or anything and I'm not talking about all drivers but only a VERY small minority. I've noticed across two operators that several passengers have made complaints about drivers who are not only late, but are driving very slowly (i.e, not late by sticking to the speed limit but doing 20 in a 30). I've personally experienced it a few times. Anyone else had any similar experiences?

It's something that used to happen years ago. Someone like Andreos would be able to provide a better explanation.

(27 Aug 2014, 10:19 pm)aureolin wrote It's something that used to happen years ago. Someone like Andreos would be able to provide a better explanation.

Dunno if it is because it is still far too early, but I haven't got the foggiest

(27 Aug 2014, 9:16 pm)Dan wrote I beg to differ! There is now only a few buses which are yet to be checked, so I discovered today, which means that the Wi-Fi on almost all 120 vehicles works.

If Andreos managed to connect to the Wi-Fi on the 4, Icomera must be doing the job correctly!

It has taken them a while, but they have got there in the end.
Sat there with the iPad and surfed away to my hearts content.
Quite fast, no lag and no dropping out.

On a different note, GNE have adverts/coupons for a £1.99 McDonalds meal on some of their tickets. I imagine more vehicles will see them introduced over the next week or so.
No idea how long the offer has been on, but haven't seen it mentioned on here previously.