Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions
Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions
I am led to believe that some new vehicles will be getting delivered between March and May.
As to the make, model, livery and brand.....let the guessing commence
(30 Dec 2014, 7:47 pm)citaro5284 I am led to believe that some new vehicles will be getting delivered between March and May.
As to the make, model, livery and brand.....let the guessing commence
(30 Dec 2014, 7:47 pm)citaro5284 I am led to believe that some new vehicles will be getting delivered between March and May.
As to the make, model, livery and brand.....let the guessing commence
I'd probably say it will consist of either E400 MMCs, B5TLs, or Metrodeckers if any double deck orders take place. For single decks, I would most likely say it will consist of Versas and Mercs.
Do you think GNE will acquire an E400 MMC demonstrator that can be properly used? If they did, I would like to see it be tried on the Toon Link and Crusader; and a performance comparison on the X1 and either the TEN, Cobalt Clipper or Fab 56.
(30 Dec 2014, 10:40 pm)DaveyBowyer I'd probably say it will consist of either E400 MMCs, B5TLs, or Metrodeckers if any double deck orders take place. For single decks, I would most likely say it will consist of Versas and Mercs.
Do you think GNE will acquire an E400 MMC demonstrator that can be properly used? If they did, I would like to see it be tried on the Toon Link and Crusader; and a performance comparison on the X1 and either the TEN, Cobalt Clipper or Fab 56.
(30 Dec 2014, 10:40 pm)DaveyBowyer I'd probably say it will consist of either E400 MMCs, B5TLs, or Metrodeckers if any double deck orders take place. For single decks, I would most likely say it will consist of Versas and Mercs.
Do you think GNE will acquire an E400 MMC demonstrator that can be properly used? If they did, I would like to see it be tried on the Toon Link and Crusader; and a performance comparison on the X1 and either the TEN, Cobalt Clipper or Fab 56.
(30 Dec 2014, 10:46 pm)dodsy Is it true that the Gemini 2 hybrids from the 21 are moving onto the crusader?
(30 Dec 2014, 10:46 pm)dodsy Is it true that the Gemini 2 hybrids from the 21 are moving onto the crusader?
(30 Dec 2014, 12:59 pm)Michael I'm not sure on passenger numbers for the FAB 57 so i'm not sure if it would justify citaro's, never know though!
(30 Dec 2014, 12:59 pm)Michael I'm not sure on passenger numbers for the FAB 57 so i'm not sure if it would justify citaro's, never know though!
I do think that GNE should consider ADL for many reasons though:
- Commonality.
- Enviro 200MMC now available as a lightweight full size single deck delivering the same benefits as the Streetlite Max and full size Versa.
- More fuel efficient.
- Better flexibility.
- Cheaper purchasing costs.
- Good warranties.
- ADL E400MMC (Cummins) seems a modern and efficient design and would be a good candidate for future double deck orders with the exception of the Red Arrows, TTX, Pronto and TEN. Would be great for the Angel when the B5s have had it.
- Heavyweight Scania chassis options available for Enviro 300 and Enviro 400MMC where needed for extra power and for the former, it would sort of fit in well particularly where the Omnicities are concerned.
(30 Dec 2014, 11:50 pm)Bus_User From what I see, the 57 gets decent loadings in peak times in particular, especally between Leam Lane and Gateshead so either using solars or the Citaro as you suggest would be a good choice imo.
The 27 for double deckers? No way, I have never seen the 27 ever full from what I seen, never mind justifying getting a double decker, would be a waste of investment in my eyes. The only time this service ever get busy is if theres a late running service, between Heworth and Newcastle, barely anyone gets on and off and in the most part along that route, it is competing with the Metro and when that is running on time, there is ever only going to be one winner. Maybe they should think of running the 27 through Felling Square again like they used too?
(30 Dec 2014, 11:50 pm)Bus_User From what I see, the 57 gets decent loadings in peak times in particular, especally between Leam Lane and Gateshead so either using solars or the Citaro as you suggest would be a good choice imo.
The 27 for double deckers? No way, I have never seen the 27 ever full from what I seen, never mind justifying getting a double decker, would be a waste of investment in my eyes. The only time this service ever get busy is if theres a late running service, between Heworth and Newcastle, barely anyone gets on and off and in the most part along that route, it is competing with the Metro and when that is running on time, there is ever only going to be one winner. Maybe they should think of running the 27 through Felling Square again like they used too?
(31 Dec 2014, 9:35 am)dodsy I was told the angel buses were going onto the 27 as they were too slow on the 21, 21 supposed to get older diesel deckers and the mercedes to be cascaded elsewhere, like I say I don't know how true it is...
(31 Dec 2014, 9:35 am)dodsy I was told the angel buses were going onto the 27 as they were too slow on the 21, 21 supposed to get older diesel deckers and the mercedes to be cascaded elsewhere, like I say I don't know how true it is...
(31 Dec 2014, 9:35 am)dodsy I was told the angel buses were going onto the 27 as they were too slow on the 21, 21 supposed to get older diesel deckers and the mercedes to be cascaded elsewhere, like I say I don't know how true it is...
(31 Dec 2014, 9:35 am)dodsy I was told the angel buses were going onto the 27 as they were too slow on the 21, 21 supposed to get older diesel deckers and the mercedes to be cascaded elsewhere, like I say I don't know how true it is...
(30 Dec 2014, 7:47 pm)citaro5284 I am led to believe that some new vehicles will be getting delivered between March and May.
As to the make, model, livery and brand.....let the guessing commence
(30 Dec 2014, 7:47 pm)citaro5284 I am led to believe that some new vehicles will be getting delivered between March and May.
As to the make, model, livery and brand.....let the guessing commence
(31 Dec 2014, 10:15 am)gtom More likely too unreliable than slow but the 27 is hardly an easy going route.Honestly, We've gone over this 101 times with other vehicles in the fleet...
But saying that, the 21 is due its usual management cock up downgrade.
(31 Dec 2014, 10:15 am)gtom More likely too unreliable than slow but the 27 is hardly an easy going route.Honestly, We've gone over this 101 times with other vehicles in the fleet...
But saying that, the 21 is due its usual management cock up downgrade.
(31 Dec 2014, 10:33 am)Dan Honestly, We've gone over this 101 times with other vehicles in the fleet...
Regularly seeing red spares on a route is not due to the fact that the branded allocation are unreliable. It's just a misconception due to the fact there are no branded spare vehicles. Matters will be made worse for the "Prince Bishops" services next month, when they cover a PVR of 20 with no branded spares...
I agree that the Volvo Hybrids may have been 'too slow' to stick to the timetable Go North East had for the 21 originally, but that's the reason why the timetables changed and the PVR increased by 2 vehicles (and hence now uses the two Volvo B7s - which were originally spares). To clear this up, the Angel B5s are staying where they are (for the next few years at least).
(31 Dec 2014, 10:33 am)Dan Honestly, We've gone over this 101 times with other vehicles in the fleet...
Regularly seeing red spares on a route is not due to the fact that the branded allocation are unreliable. It's just a misconception due to the fact there are no branded spare vehicles. Matters will be made worse for the "Prince Bishops" services next month, when they cover a PVR of 20 with no branded spares...
I agree that the Volvo Hybrids may have been 'too slow' to stick to the timetable Go North East had for the 21 originally, but that's the reason why the timetables changed and the PVR increased by 2 vehicles (and hence now uses the two Volvo B7s - which were originally spares). To clear this up, the Angel B5s are staying where they are (for the next few years at least).
(31 Dec 2014, 10:41 am)Michael I'm expecting loads of odd workings on the Prince Bishops, due to the re-fueling and buses having checks etc...They'll also have to re-fueled more than often due to its LONG route?
They should have at least 2-3 spares for it but that brings more problems up... don't think GNE will want to have loads of branded spares sitting around.......
Hopefully this is sorted when GNE do the 2015/2016 orders
(31 Dec 2014, 10:41 am)Michael I'm expecting loads of odd workings on the Prince Bishops, due to the re-fueling and buses having checks etc...They'll also have to re-fueled more than often due to its LONG route?
They should have at least 2-3 spares for it but that brings more problems up... don't think GNE will want to have loads of branded spares sitting around.......
Hopefully this is sorted when GNE do the 2015/2016 orders
(31 Dec 2014, 10:27 am)Michael I would say i can guarantee at least 2 routes which will get new buses during this financial term, aslthough still not 100% on what buses they'll get here is my guess...
Lime - Streetlite
X66 - Versa
As for others.... no idea
How many buses are being ordered
(31 Dec 2014, 10:27 am)Michael I would say i can guarantee at least 2 routes which will get new buses during this financial term, aslthough still not 100% on what buses they'll get here is my guess...
Lime - Streetlite
X66 - Versa
As for others.... no idea
How many buses are being ordered
(31 Dec 2014, 10:53 am)Robert We have all been able to establish that those 2 routes in particular are to receive an upgrade or cascade of some sort for months now although like you say, we can't say that what vehicles will be purchased for them. We won't know how many buses are being ordered until they actually are. At the moment, we can only guess roughly which i think was about 80 if i remember correctly?
(31 Dec 2014, 10:53 am)Robert We have all been able to establish that those 2 routes in particular are to receive an upgrade or cascade of some sort for months now although like you say, we can't say that what vehicles will be purchased for them. We won't know how many buses are being ordered until they actually are. At the moment, we can only guess roughly which i think was about 80 if i remember correctly?
(31 Dec 2014, 10:53 am)Robert We have all been able to establish that those 2 routes in particular are to receive an upgrade or cascade of some sort for months now although like you say, we can't say that what vehicles will be purchased for them. We won't know how many buses are being ordered until they actually are. At the moment, we can only guess roughly which i think was about 80 if i remember correctly?
(31 Dec 2014, 10:53 am)Robert We have all been able to establish that those 2 routes in particular are to receive an upgrade or cascade of some sort for months now although like you say, we can't say that what vehicles will be purchased for them. We won't know how many buses are being ordered until they actually are. At the moment, we can only guess roughly which i think was about 80 if i remember correctly?