Stagecoach 2015/2016 order

conzog 13 Apr 2015, 8:09 am

#61

(13 Apr 2015, 7:37 am)Martin Rogers wrote The New E400 MMC's for Oxford are due for delivery in mid-late July 2015.

Cheers

Martin Rogers 13 Apr 2015, 11:34 am

#62

(12 Apr 2015, 6:22 pm)Southernsofty wrote Does anyone know what happened to the final Enviro 200s of the 2014/2015 order - 37280-37290?
Originally listed as due for the Isle of Arran (Strathclyde purchased & owned Streetlites presumably put paid to that) then a possible hint that they might be going to Worthing.
Presumably they have been cancelled?

Fleet numbers 37280 - 37290, don't appear in the 2015 Stagecoach Handbook, so they have obviously been cancelled.

Martin Rogers 13 Apr 2015, 11:47 am

#63

(11 Apr 2015, 11:41 pm)Kuyoyo wrote And as someone has now blabbed elsewhere:

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10431-10442: Oxford
10443-10451: Wigan
10452-10456:
10457-10487: Manchester Hyde Road

Scania N230UD Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Euro5
15211-15220: Fenstanton (Guideway)
15221-15225: Lillyhall (GOLD Spec)
15226-15249: Chorley (GOLD Spec)
15250: Torquay (GOLD Spec)
15251-15260: Exeter (GOLD Spec)

Scania N230UD Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
15261-15290:

Volvo B8RLE/Wrightbus Eclipse Urban 3
21301-21310: Fenstanton (Guideway)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M Euro6
26001-26019: Cowdenbeath
26020-26023: Barnsley
26024-26033: Rawmarsh

Alexander Dennis Enviro300 Euro5
27211-27228: Glasgow (Note: Presently two versions - the list I have lists the entire batch for Glasgow, the one so far revealled online has 27226 as for the South West)
27229-27237: Wigan
27238-27254: Stockton
27255-27272: Birkenhead Rock Ferry (GOLD Spec)
27273-27286: (GOLD Spec)
27287-27299:

Scania K230UB Alexander Dennis Enviro300
28721-28741: Cwnbran (replacing 27188-27205)
28742-28746: Banbury (GOLD Spec)
28747-28748: Lillyhall (GOLD Spec)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200 Euro5
37301-37319: South Shields
37320-37326: Gloucester
37327: Hastings

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6
37401-37405: Oxford
37406-37423:

Optare Solo SR Euro5
47941-47966: Carlisle
47967-47980: Leamington (GOLD Spec)

Optare Solo SLR Euro6
48001-48002: Carlisle (Honister spec)
48003-48020: Exeter
48021-48025: Kings Lynn

Volvo B8R/Plaxton Elite Euro6
53801-53812: Aberhill

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
54241-54257: Buchan
54258-54262: Glasgow
54263-54276: Rugby Megabus

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
55021-55028: Rugby (Left Hand Drive)

Van Hool Astromega TDX27 Euro6
56028-56050: Rugby Megabus (Left Hand Drive)

Kuyoyo 15 Apr 2015, 8:56 pm

#64

As people seem to be leaking left right and centre, I might as well post the full list

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10431-10442: Oxford
10443-10451: Wigan
10452-10456: Exeter
10457-10487: Manchester Hyde Road

Scania N230UD Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Euro5
15211-15220: Fenstanton (Guideway)
15221-15225: Lillyhall (GOLD Spec)
15226-15249: Chorley (GOLD Spec)
15250: Torquay (GOLD Spec)
15251-15260: Exeter (GOLD Spec)

Scania N230UD Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
15261-15290: Canterbury

Volvo B8RLE/Wrightbus Eclipse Urban 3
21301-21310: Fenstanton (Guideway)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M Euro6
26001-26019: Cowdenbeath
26020-26023: Barnsley
26024-26033: Rawmarsh

Alexander Dennis Enviro300 Euro5
27211-27228: Glasgow
27229-27237: Wigan
27238-27254: Stockton
27255-27272: Birkenhead Rock Ferry (GOLD Spec)
27273-27286: Cwmbran (GOLD Spec)
27287-27299: Liverpool Gillmoss

Scania K230UB Alexander Dennis Enviro300
28721-28741: Cwnbran (replacing 27188-27205)
28742-28746: Banbury (GOLD Spec)
28747-28748: Lillyhall (GOLD Spec)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200 Euro5
37301-37319: South Shields
37320-37326: Gloucester
37327: Hastings

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6
37401-37405: Oxford
37406-37423: Winchester

Optare Solo SR Euro5
47941-47966: Carlisle
47967-47980: Leamington (GOLD Spec)

Optare Solo SLR Euro6
48001-48002: Carlisle (Honister spec)
48003-48020: Exeter
48021-48025: Kings Lynn

Volvo B8R/Plaxton Elite Euro6
53801-53812: Aberhill

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
54241-54257: Buchan
54258-54262: Glasgow
54263-54276: Rugby Megabus
55021-55028: Rugby Megabus (Left Hand Drive)

Van Hool Astromega TDX27 Euro6
56028-56050: Rugby Megabus (Left Hand Drive)

Malarkey 15 Apr 2015, 9:00 pm

#65

Out of curiosity what is "Honister Spec" for the Solo SRs heading to Carlisle.

Kuyoyo 15 Apr 2015, 9:09 pm

#66

(15 Apr 2015, 9:00 pm)Malarkey wrote Out of curiosity what is "Honister Spec" for the Solo SRs heading to Carlisle.

Modifed to operate over the Honister Pass on the 77/77A as per Solos 47721/2.

citaro5284 15 Apr 2015, 10:06 pm

#67

(15 Apr 2015, 9:09 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Modifed to operate over the Honister Pass on the 77/77A as per Solos 47721/2.

Which means what - what has been modified on the vehicle....is it a gerbox ratio change, different diff put in or something else?

Southernsofty 16 Apr 2015, 5:47 am

#68

"15261-15290: Canterbury"

As Canterbury is an outstation of Herne Bay (current PVR of @ 17) - so maybe this should read Herne Bay?
(In addition, Canterbury P&R vehicles are separately based at Dover).

Dan 16 Apr 2015, 5:55 am

#69

(15 Apr 2015, 10:06 pm)citaro5284 wrote Which means what - what has been modified on the vehicle....is it a gerbox ratio change, different diff put in or something else?

It was speculated originally (prior to the Stagecoach UK order being confirmed last year) that Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancs were to order two Solo SRs for the 77/77A routes, but only one was delivered. The Optare Solo SR M880SL based at Carlisle which was delivered was intended to be a reserve vehicle for when 47721/22 were VOR, but Stagecoach realised upon arrival of the bus that it was too big for the route and couldn't be used.

If my memory serves me correctly, Stagecoach made some modifications to the suspension of Solo SR 47921 and it now can be used as a last resort spare when the preferred reserve Solo is unavailable. Up to now, it has spent much of its time on the short 685 Carlisle - Brampton service, though I suspect upon the arrival of newer Solo SRs which are replacing the ADL Enviro200s, that this will just become a reserve vehicle and will be allocated to various town services as well as the 685.

Kuyoyo may be able to confirm if the Honister specification entails more than the above.

Alfie31511 17 Apr 2015, 12:07 pm

#70

Does anyone know when the winchester ones are due?

Martin Rogers 17 Apr 2015, 12:12 pm

#71

(17 Apr 2015, 12:07 pm)Alfie31511 wrote Does anyone know when the winchester ones are due?

November/December 2015

Alfie31511 17 Apr 2015, 12:52 pm

#72

(17 Apr 2015, 12:12 pm)Martin Rogers wrote November/December 2015

Ok thanks for letting me know

AIG20 18 Apr 2015, 8:08 pm

#73

Does anyone know why there is a gap between ADL E300s 27208 & 27211; and ADL E200s 37292 & 37301?

Martin Rogers 19 Apr 2015, 7:17 am

#74

(16 Apr 2015, 5:47 am)Southernsofty wrote "15261-15290: Canterbury"

As Canterbury is an outstation of Herne Bay (current PVR of @ 17) - so maybe this should read Herne Bay?
(In addition, Canterbury P&R vehicles are separately based at Dover).

Not being funny but the Canterbury specified allocation is precisely what is recorded on the Delivery Schedule as produced by Stagecoach UK Bus. It doesn't show as Herne Bay, it literally says/shows Canterbury as the allocation.

Martin Rogers 19 Apr 2015, 7:25 am

#75

(18 Apr 2015, 8:08 pm)AIG20 wrote Does anyone know why there is a gap between ADL E300s 27208 & 27211; and ADL E200s 37292 & 37301?

Odd gaps in Fleet Blocks are often left, just in case Stagecoach purchases other Operators, as in the case of Norfolk Green & is then able to slot vehicles in. Also I would suspect if an "Odd" extra vehicle (s) is required the spare numbers can be used to accommodate these Odd vehicles.

The same could also be said for the likes of Arriva North East, where I believe there is a gap between 1523 & 1550 ?

Southernsofty 20 Apr 2015, 7:41 am

#76

(19 Apr 2015, 7:17 am)Martin Rogers wrote Not being funny but the Canterbury specified allocation is precisely what is recorded on the Delivery Schedule as produced by Stagecoach UK Bus. It doesn't show as Herne Bay, it literally says/shows Canterbury as the allocation.

Happy to accept that it states 'Canterbury' on the delivery schedule.
Would just point out that Canterbury outstation has a PVR of 17 (With the vehicles maintained at Herne bay), The Canterbury Park & Ride buses (4 - Enviro 400, 6 Enviro 300) are based at Dover depot.
The VOSA site shows Canterbury as an operating centre of 17 vehicles.
I would suggest that perhaps the intention is to use 17 of the new vehicles at Canterbury on a daily basis (with the whole batch being allocated to Herne Bay).

AIG20 20 Apr 2015, 8:09 pm

#77

The First New Vehicles of the 2015/2016 order are currently undergoing delivery. I assume these are E300 bodied Scania's.

YN15 KFZ
YN15 KFP
YN15 KFX
YN15 KFV
YN15 KFT

Image owned by Flickr user "MOD571P".

glen 20 Apr 2015, 8:18 pm

#78

When stagecoach on teesside new enviro buses due yet

Michael 20 Apr 2015, 8:46 pm

#79

(20 Apr 2015, 8:18 pm)glen wrote When stagecoach on teesside new enviro buses due yet

The ones for South Shields are due early summer.

As for the Teeside ones... not sure, don't think a date has being said...?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

glen 20 Apr 2015, 8:52 pm

#80

Thanks

Martin Rogers 21 Apr 2015, 8:50 am

#81

(20 Apr 2015, 8:18 pm)glen wrote When stagecoach on teesside new enviro buses due yet

The New vehicles for Stagecoach Teesside, are currently due to be delivered, from the week ending Friday 21st August 2015, with final deliveries expected the week ending Friday 23rd September 2015. It is possible therefore, that these vehicles will carry 65' registration plates, given the 65' plate registration marks come into effect from 1 September 2015.

AIG20 26 Apr 2015, 12:09 pm

#82

It appears that the Wrightbus Streetlites and Optare Solos are not suitable for the Isle of Arran:

Island's £1.5million eco-bus fleet drive locals round the bend: 'There's no space.. they even struggle to get up the hills!' = Daily Record

Dan 26 Apr 2015, 12:28 pm

#83

(26 Apr 2015, 12:09 pm)AIG20 wrote It appears that the Wrightbus Streetlites and Optare Solos are not suitable for the Isle of Arran:

Island's £1.5million eco-bus fleet drive locals round the bend: 'There's no space.. they even struggle to get up the hills!' = Daily Record

Perhaps one of the first times people have been happier with step-entrance vehicles? Not including enthusiasts, of course!

Kuyoyo 06 May 2015, 8:22 pm

#84

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10431-10442: Oxford
10443-10451: Wigan
10452-10456: Exeter
10457-10487: Manchester Hyde Road

Scania N230UD Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Euro5
15211-15220: Fenstanton (Guideway)
15221-15225: Lillyhall (GOLD Spec)
15226-15249: Chorley (GOLD Spec)
15250: Torquay (GOLD Spec)
15251-15260: Exeter (GOLD Spec)

Scania N230UD Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
15261-15290: Canterbury

Volvo B8RLE/Wrightbus Eclipse Urban 3
21301-21310: Fenstanton (Guideway)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M Euro6
26001-26019: Cowdenbeath
26020-26023: Barnsley
26024-26033: Rawmarsh

Alexander Dennis Enviro300 Euro5
27211-27228: Glasgow
27229-27237: Wigan
27238-27254: Stockton
27255-27272: Birkenhead Rock Ferry (GOLD Spec)
27273-27286: Cwmbran (GOLD Spec)
27287-27299: Liverpool Gillmoss

Scania K230UB Alexander Dennis Enviro300
28721-28741 (YN15 KFO/R/T/U/P/V/W/X/Y/Z, KGA/E/F/G/J/K/O/P/U/V/X): Cwnbran (replacing 27188-27205)
28742-28746: Banbury (GOLD Spec)
28747-28748: Lillyhall (GOLD Spec)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200 Euro5
37301-37319: South Shields
37320-37326: Gloucester
37327: Hastings

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6
37401-37405: Oxford
37406-37423: Winchester

Optare Solo SR Euro5
47941-47966: Carlisle
47967-47980: Leamington (GOLD Spec)

Optare Solo SLR Euro6
48001-48002: Carlisle (Honister spec)
48003-48020: Exeter
48021-48025: Kings Lynn

Volvo B8R/Plaxton Elite Euro6
53801-53812: Aberhill

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
54241-54257: Buchan
54258-54262: Glasgow
54263-54276: Rugby Megabus
55021-55028: Rugby Megabus (Left Hand Drive)

Van Hool Astromega TDX27 Euro6
56028-56050: Rugby Megabus (Left Hand Drive)

AIG20 13 May 2015, 5:22 pm

#85

Stagecoach Merseyside have acquired an ADL E400 MMC - numbered 80027 and registered "YY15 HJZ".

https://www.flickr.com/photos/80127860@N03/16980441094
Image owned by Flickr user "1dannyandy1".

Edit: Apparently it is one of only two diesel buses in the UK to feature stop/start technology.

Malarkey 13 May 2015, 5:31 pm

#86

(13 May 2015, 5:22 pm)AIG20 wrote Stagecoach Merseyside have acquired an ADL E400 MMC - numbered 80027 and registered "YY15 HJZ".

https://www.flickr.com/photos/80127860@N03/16980441094
Image owned by Flickr user "1dannyandy1".

Edit: Apparently it is one of only two diesel buses in the UK to feature stop/start technology.

I shall guess that this is a Demonstrator, purely by the Fleet Number it has been given.

Kuyoyo 13 May 2015, 6:41 pm

#87

(13 May 2015, 5:22 pm)AIG20 wrote Stagecoach Merseyside have acquired an ADL E400 MMC - numbered 80027 and registered "YY15 HJZ".

https://www.flickr.com/photos/80127860@N03/16980441094
Image owned by Flickr user "1dannyandy1".

Edit: Apparently it is one of only two diesel buses in the UK to feature stop/start technology.

(13 May 2015, 5:31 pm)Malarkey wrote I shall guess that this is a Demonstrator, purely by the Fleet Number it has been given.

Adam has hit the nail on the head - it is a demonstrator to trial 'Start-Stop' technology in a conventionally-powered vehicles. It's one of only two examples so far fitted with the technology in the UK and will be on trial at Gillmoss for a period of 6 months to a year.

Kuyoyo 25 May 2015, 9:16 am

#88

The first 4 Solos have arrived at Carlisle (details thanks to Lee Wardle on 'Stagecoach Enthusiasts' Facebook Group)

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10431-10442: Oxford
10443-10451: Wigan
10452-10456: Exeter
10457-10487: Manchester Hyde Road

Scania N230UD Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Euro5
15211-15220: Fenstanton (Guideway)
15221-15225: Lillyhall (GOLD Spec)
15226-15249: Chorley (GOLD Spec)
15250: Torquay (GOLD Spec)
15251-15260: Exeter (GOLD Spec)

Scania N230UD Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
15261-15290: Canterbury

Volvo B8RLE/Wrightbus Eclipse Urban 3
21301-21310: Fenstanton (Guideway)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M Euro6
26001-26019: Cowdenbeath
26020-26023: Barnsley
26024-26033: Rawmarsh

Alexander Dennis Enviro300 Euro5
27211-27228: Glasgow
27229-27237: Wigan
27238-27254: Stockton
27255-27272: Birkenhead Rock Ferry (GOLD Spec)
27273-27286: Cwmbran (GOLD Spec)
27287-27299: Liverpool Gillmoss

Scania K230UB Alexander Dennis Enviro300
28721-28741 (YN15 KFO/R/T/U/P/V/W/X/Y/Z, KGA/E/F/G/J/K/O/P/U/V/X): Cwnbran (replacing 27188-27205)
28742-28746: Banbury (GOLD Spec)
28747-28748: Lillyhall (GOLD Spec)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200 Euro5
37301-37319: South Shields
37320-37326: Gloucester
37327: Hastings

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6
37401-37405: Oxford
37406-37423: Winchester

Optare Solo SR Euro5
47941-47966 (YJ15 AEO/P/?/?/V/W): Carlisle
47967-47980: Leamington (GOLD Spec)

Optare Solo SLR Euro6
48001-48002: Carlisle (Honister spec)
48003-48020: Exeter
48021-48025: Kings Lynn

Volvo B8R/Plaxton Elite Euro6
53801-53812: Aberhill

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
54241-54257: Buchan
54258-54262: Glasgow
54263-54276: Rugby Megabus
55021-55028: Rugby Megabus (Left Hand Drive)

Van Hool Astromega TDX27 Euro6
56028-56050: Rugby Megabus (Left Hand Drive)

Kuyoyo 26 May 2015, 8:49 am

#89

One minor error I am correcting myself on...

YJ15AEO is 47961 not 47941.

AIG20 28 May 2015, 5:57 pm

#90

A brand new Volvo B5LH/ADL E400 MMC, 13061 (BF15 KGK), has arrived at Stagecoach London's West Ham Depot. Several of these vehicles are apparently being delivered to both West Ham and Plumstead Depot.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/46341292@N05/18201069305/
Image owned by Flickr user "RMC1490"