I hope it is okay to start a new thread?

I was just wondering, has anyone had any 'run ins' with the general public for taking photographs which they might be in? I've had a couple, a lad probably about 18/19 came storming off the 27 in South Shields and had a massive shouting match with me. Another incident I've had in South Shields was with a driver, again on the 27 who said I was 'encroaching on his privacy'.

Sunderland is a nightmare especially when you get a photo of the Drifter's turning the corner to enter Park Lane! The amount of people I've seen give me 'hackies' or have gave me a signal is crazy.

I got threatened in Glenrothes a few years ago by some druggies. However saying nothing and just staring at them made them back down.

Had a few, Ashington bus station, over a year ago, two lads came and had a go at me for calling their mother a slut... that later became a slag...! Also in November, I had a bloke shout at me for taking photos of him alighting an X22, thankfully the supervisor came out and had words with him.

Also had a NX/Yourbus driver hop off his 591 at Morpeth and rant at me, saying that he wanted me to delete the photo...

I just don't get the incidents where drivers have a go, I will usually try and slow a little or wait at a stop a few seconds more if I see a fellow enthusiast wanting a photo of a vehicle I'm driving, this is usually followed by a nod or a wave and I usually get the same in return.

I have only had one driver say anything 'get a job you sad B@atard' were his words, this was in Stratford in London and he sharp said sorry when I showed him my ID and said 'this proves I have one and the picture I've just taken is to be viewed by your MD and ED at a meeting tomorrow morning'

Never had a member of the public say a word, might have something to do with my size and look mind, 6' built like a tank and a shaved head usually puts them off.

(14 May 2015, 12:25 pm)Tommy_1581 wrote Had a few, Ashington bus station, over a year ago, two lads came and had a go at me for calling their mother a slut... that later became a slag...! 

Hmmmmm I think I'm on there side here.

(14 May 2015, 8:10 pm)roar wrote I just don't get the incidents where drivers have a go, I will usually try and slow a little or wait at a stop a few seconds more if I see a fellow enthusiast wanting a photo of a vehicle I'm driving, this is usually followed by a nod or a wave and I usually get the same in return.

I have only had one driver say anything 'get a job you sad B@atard' were his words, this was in Stratford in London and he sharp said sorry when I showed him my ID and said 'this proves I have one and the picture I've just taken is to be viewed by your MD and ED at a meeting tomorrow morning'

Never had a member of the public say a word, might have something to do with my size and look mind, 6' built like a tank and a shaved head usually puts them off.

I'm exactly the same, if I see someone wanting a photo I'll try and slow for a gap or similarly wait a few seconds longer!

(14 May 2015, 8:13 pm)roar wrote Hmmmmm I think I'm on there side here.

Sorry, I didn't make it clear enough

I was taking photos of a railtour in Ashington, in the January, they came onto the bridge absolutely p****d and asked if I wanted a drink, I refused and they went.

I have had trouble with them for over a year now, they constantly give me the salute and threaten to kill me etc, I was standing in Ashingon bus station at the peak of the bullying and they started shouting abuse at me for no reason, I have not called anyone a slut/slag at that time or in my life, and this was just a case of them picking on me.

(14 May 2015, 8:47 pm)tyresmoke wrote I'm exactly the same, if I see someone wanting a photo I'll try and slow for a gap or similarly wait a few seconds longer!

... and a smile and a wave.   

(14 May 2015, 8:47 pm)tyresmoke wrote I'm exactly the same, if I see someone wanting a photo I'll try and slow for a gap or similarly wait a few seconds longer!

Apart from when you see Kuyoyo - then you put your foot down!!

(16 May 2015, 6:35 pm)Dan wrote Apart from when you see Kuyoyo - then you put your foot down!!

Allegedly !

Just been getting some bus photos at Dalton Park and I snapped a photo just near to where the bus stop is and there was three kids there and after snapping a photo of a silver Merc they started shouting nonce and paedophile at me and this continued for around 10 minutes until the 265 arrived bound for Durham and continued to shout at me once I was on the bus meaning the people on the bus could hear this (thankfully not their allegations) and sure enough who did I sit in front of? One of the children's mother! She says she is going to tell her son off when she gets home. Even if worst came to worst I have taken other bus photos in the area and the driver on the 265 could probably back me up to some extent as I took a photo of the bus heading to Seaham as the 202. In the offending photo we can't see the children for the Citaro which I was trying to take.

Do we think I should be worried?

In this day and age I would of deleted the photo and left it at that but maybe I look at it differently with working in a school part time.

Also if the parent was sitting behind you perhaps a a discreet chat with her (if she seemed decent enough which most people are) and say this is the shot I took. Would you be happy if I deleted it?

It's like I wouldn't dream of taking a photo of a scholars service and uploading it to Flickr. What happens if you can clearly make a kids face out on that photo, that said child is in care and the parents don't know where the child is living. They then see there on a bus to St Roberts School and boom! Perhaps I over think like I said...

(08 Aug 2015, 12:57 pm)idiot wrote In this day and age I would of deleted the photo and left it at that but maybe I look at it differently with working in a school part time.

Also if the parent was sitting behind you perhaps a a discreet chat with her (if she seemed decent enough which most people are) and say this is the shot I took. Would you be happy if I deleted it?

It's like I wouldn't dream of taking a photo of a scholars service and uploading it to Flickr. What happens if you can clearly make a kids face out on that photo, that said child is in care and the parents don't know where the child is living. They then see there on a bus to St Roberts School and boom! Perhaps I over think like I said...

Explaining to her what happened and saying I would delete the photo (was a naff photo anyway) would have maybe been the best thing to do, unfortunately this happened to me and of course as I'm sure some of you are aware I have some communication problems which prevented me from doing so.

I personally don't do "scholar services" for photos for these reasons especially with the passengers on the bus are all children which looks really dodgy, if I was so desperate to get a photo of a bus that does scholar services I'd make a guess as to what time it would leave the operators depot and snap it with no passengers on-board.

(08 Aug 2015, 2:13 pm)Jimmi wrote Explaining to her what happened and saying I would delete the photo (was a naff photo anyway) would have maybe been the best thing to do, unfortunately this happened to me and of course as I'm sure some of you are aware I have some communication problems which prevented me from doing so.

I personally don't do "scholar services" for photos for these reasons especially with the passengers on the bus are all children which looks really dodgy, if I was so desperate to get a photo of a bus that does scholar services I'd make a guess as to what time it would leave the operators depot and snap it with no passengers on-board.

I had a bad incident about a month ago at Hannington Street, Byker. I'd went to get some photos of Stanley Travel deckers and Community Transport minibuses. I was standing on the street writing down vehicle details. This woman parked in a car demanded to know what I was doing. I explained I was an enthusiast. She then started shouting there were no buses present and that I should leave. I pointed at a decker and said "Well there's one for a start, and I'm standing on an adopted road so I do not have to leave".

She then threatened to call the police. I said "fine, I'll sit on that wall there and wait for them. You can then explain to them what in your opinion I'm doing wrong. Can you also confirm to me your name, your employers name/address and your relationship to Stanley Travel or Community transport so that I can write to them about you".

So I went and sat on the wall and waited for the police and she drove off swearing. The police never did arrive. You could say I was being a bit bloody minded but quite frankly I was not on private property and I was going about my lawful business. I was not near any school, care home etc and there was no-one who you could class as vulnerable present.

With regards to photographing school buses, I only do this if the vehicles are empty. Same if I'm photographing non-psv minibuses belonging to schools, care homes, youth clubs etc.

Charles

Speaking of scholars services; I recall last year, I walked out of the school grounds to catch the ''Angel'' 21 back to Chester-le-Street, and the scholars services (885-888) were all departing the school grounds. I saw a man taking photographs, I'm guessing of the buses but you can never be sure, and he was getting loads of abuse from some of the younger kids. I have to say, while I gathered he was an enthusiast, if I was him, I would have stood outside of Chester-le-Street depot while they either left or returned, as the destination blinds are usually set then; also, no children that could possibly spark a fire about it would be on board.

(09 Aug 2015, 11:08 am)R852 PRG wrote Speaking of scholars services; I recall last year, I walked out of the school grounds to catch the ''Angel'' 21 back to Chester-le-Street, and the scholars services (885-888) were all departing the school grounds. I saw a man taking photographs, I'm guessing of the buses but you can never be sure, and he was getting loads of abuse from some of the younger kids. I have to say, while I gathered he was an enthusiast, if I was him, I would have stood outside of Chester-le-Street depot while they either left or returned, as the destination blinds are usually set then; also, no children that could possibly spark a fire about it would be on board.

Surely if he was taking a photo of the kids, none of them would be in a good enough position for him to have a joint over. 

I haven't seen many enthusiasts take photos of my scholars service before. Only 2 that i can recall and both were at New Kyo. The scholars services that serve Consett Bus Station seem to get all of the enthusiast attention - not many photos are taken at Stanley.

I remember once ages ago I was in Park lane getting a few Versa photos on 39 (they used purple versas at the time) this person I knew from college claimed I took a photo of her when it wasn't me it was Malarkey (he was witness) the persons name who accused me was a girl named Kayleigh Wright she even threatened the cops lucky I laughed it off and then proceeded to use the good old block button if she threatens me like that again I will have a calm word if any worse I will be calm and report it to a friend to see what they think or any worse I'll get advice from friends and see what they say before getting action

(23 Sep 2015, 10:22 pm)Diamond One wrote I remember once ages ago I was in Park lane getting a few Versa photos on 39 (they used purple versas at the time) this person I knew from college claimed I took a photo of her when it wasn't me it was Malarkey (he was witness) the persons name who accused me was a girl named Kayleigh Wright she even threatened the cops lucky I laughed it off and then proceeded to use the good old block button if she threatens me like that again I will have a calm word if any worse I will be calm and report it to a friend to see what they think or any worse I'll get advice from friends and see what they say before getting action

EEEEEEEEE.....Dropping Malarks in it, what yu like

Giving the questionably mad things you have done in the past Bazza you could create an incident in an empty room all by yourself

Kidding mate

Never had a serious incident with anyone, a bus driver from Deptford once messaged on Facebook asking for a photo to be taken after someone tagged him...

Tagging bus photos is not something I do, unless tol I can...

Ultimately I took photo down, to keep the peace, it weren't one of my favourites anyway.

The worst I have seen is an older gentleman verbally abused in Peterlee by some drugged up pisshead, the poor guy was called a paedophile, a nonce and pervert, where the paedo come from I do not know, there wasn't even a kid in sight, to this day I wish I stood up for that guy, but I was in a rush to get back home as the buses were only 1ph

(28 Sep 2015, 8:07 pm)MrFozz wrote The worst I have seen is an older gentleman verbally abused in Peterlee by some drugged up pisshead, the poor guy was called a paedophile, a nonce and pervert, where the paedo come from I do not know, there wasn't even a kid in sight, to this day I wish I stood up for that guy, but I was in a rush to get back home as the buses were only 1ph

Calling someone a paedophile, nonce etc. seems to be increasingly common is today's society. Its the equivalent of being accused of witchcraft about 400 years ago. I feel sorry for the bloke who had to put up with this level of abuse. Personally I would have just laid into the obnoxious idiot.

Charles

(29 Sep 2015, 9:14 am)Charles41 wrote Calling someone a paedophile, nonce etc. seems to be increasingly common is today's society. Its the equivalent of being accused of witchcraft about 400 years ago. I feel sorry for the bloke who had to put up with this level of abuse. Personally I would have just laid into the obnoxious idiot.

Charles

Your right mate...

Like I said I wish I stood up for him, if I saw it happening again , I would do something about it...

For me, my group of friends, while taking the piss a bit, are pleased that I have found something that interests me, and one or two are genuinely interested when they see a camera in my hand

(29 Sep 2015, 12:51 pm)MrFozz wrote Mr Fozz Wrote

For me, my group of friends, while taking the piss a bit, are pleased that I have found something that interests me, and one or two are genuinely interested when they see a camera in my hand

I get good hearted abuse from friends and work colleagues quite a lot. I do not mind it though, I know there's nothing malicious about it. My partner is the worst, she found it hilarious when I told her I was getting back into buses as a hobby. When I took her to the Metrocentre Rally and she was amazed how popular a hobby this is. The Metrocentre rally was the first bus rally I'd attended in years.

Now she helps me spot when we are travelling together and lets me know if she's seen any other enthusiasts on her travels. She confessed to being an Eddie Stobart fan and also looks out for J.R. Adams' trucks because she likes the colours.

Perhaps there's a hidden transport enthusiast in all of us just waiting to get out.

Charles

(30 Sep 2015, 11:10 am)Charles41 wrote I get good hearted abuse from friends and work colleagues quite a lot. I do not mind it though, I know there's nothing malicious about it. My partner is the worst, she found it hilarious when I told her I was getting back into buses as a hobby. When I took her to the Metrocentre Rally and she was amazed how popular a hobby this is. The Metrocentre rally was the first bus rally I'd attended in years.

Now she helps me spot when we are travelling together and lets me know if she's seen any other enthusiasts on her travels. She confessed to being an Eddie Stobart fan and also looks out for J.R. Adams' trucks because she likes the colours.

Perhaps there's a hidden transport enthusiast in all of us just waiting to get out.

Charles

My mother embarrased me in Park Lane one night, when the 42 and 60 used to Interwork, a Green Drifter Versa pulled in on a 42, my mam said 'Thats unusual, thought they were only on Seaham and Murton buses(as it was at the time), I explained Interworking, then she turned round and said 'You gonna take a photo David' at that point I could feel every pair of eyes within 50' look to see what I would do and could feel my face burning and turning bright red...I wanted the ground to swallow me up right there and then lol

(28 Sep 2015, 8:07 pm)MrFozz wrote EEEEEEEEE.....Dropping Malarks in it, what yu like

Giving the questionably mad things you have done in the past Bazza you could create an incident in an empty room all by yourself

Kidding mate

Never had a serious incident with anyone, a bus driver from Deptford once messaged on Facebook asking for a photo to be taken after someone tagged him...

Tagging bus photos is not something I do, unless tol I can...

Ultimately I took photo down, to keep the peace, it weren't one of my favourites anyway.

The worst I have seen is an older gentleman verbally abused in Peterlee by some drugged up pisshead, the poor guy was called a paedophile, a nonce and pervert, where the paedo come from I do not know, there wasn't even a kid in sight, to this day I wish I stood up for that guy, but I was in a rush to get back home as the buses were only 1ph

actually malarkey was next to me at the time