Thread for GNE general Convesations 


I saw this old post off Ambassador 

"Purely anecdotal but thanks to Gateshead Council's appalling approach to traffic management, I've used a few buses over the weekend and noticed something interesting with the 21.

Whenver the Brandon and Durham 21 pulls in people let it go and automatically go for the 21 - it's almost like they auto programmed to hop on the CLS one as they think Durham and Brandon is an express. I hopped on a D&B 21 from Gateshead this morning which was tailgated the whole way by a CLS 21 and people were either letting ours go past or in the case of the Cannon, walking past it to get onto a the CLS one."

And in my opinion its not just the 21, its the 21 or X1 into Newcastle. 20 to Durham instead of the X20. X21/21 to NCL rather than X22 to Metrocentre. 

16 to Consett rather tahn the X5.

I understand Ambassador’s post, I don’t understand what you are getting at.

(28 Dec 2021, 11:45 pm)Wybus wrote I understand Ambassador’s post, I don’t understand what you are getting at.

That people will always use certain services even if one is faster. such as the 20 over the X20. 21 over X21.

people let the 25, 29 and 28b go past along low fell to get ANY 21! Also doesn't help that the 28b that serves low fell from Newcastle stops at a completely different stop at Gateshead M to the 21. ive been the only customer on the 28b and when we passed the 21 stop at gateshead M there been 25+ waiting for the 21. Granted they may want to go to where the 28b deosnt serve but i bet some would be just going to low fell!

(29 Dec 2021, 11:15 am)Rob44 wrote people let the 25, 29 and 28b go past along low fell to get ANY 21! Also doesn't help that the 28b that serves low fell from Newcastle stops at a completely different stop at Gateshead M to the 21. ive been the only customer on the 28b and when we passed the 21 stop at gateshead M there been 25+ waiting for the 21. Granted they may want to go to where the 28b deosnt serve but i bet some would be just going to low fell!

Yeah the 28B stand makes little sense with it serving both Low Fell and Birtley 

I do wonder if its a hangover from the days of the Go Northern 221 and Classic Buses 21 where they were THE route and Durham was confined to the exotic Arriva X1 and the 722/723/724 runs and people are just programmed from parents/grandparents to use the 21

Mod note: I've renamed this thread to be more reflective of the purpose. We moved away from general threads in the main operator forums some time ago now..

(29 Dec 2021, 4:25 pm)Adrian wrote Mod note: I've renamed this thread to be more reflective of the purpose. We moved away from general threads in the main operator forums some time ago now..

But surely a general thread, for just little things or questions would be nicer...than loads of smaller individual thread names

(29 Dec 2021, 4:29 pm)Keeiajs wrote But surely a general thread, for just little things or questions would be nicer...than loads of smaller individual thread names

It wasn't up for debate.

Adrian has made the decision to split the thread as mod - just respect that please.

(29 Dec 2021, 4:38 pm)Dan wrote It wasn't up for debate.

Adrian has made the decision to split the thread as mod - just respect that please.

I fully understand that, and respect his decision I was only giving a reason for while a general one would be better.

Is it just me or is the leadership of this forum starting to become a bit authoritarian of late?

Charles

(29 Dec 2021, 6:27 pm)Charles41 wrote Is it just me or is the leadership of this forum starting to become a bit authoritarian of late?

Charles

This forum is like North Korea And Over Zealously Moderated?

(29 Dec 2021, 6:36 pm)Dan wrote This forum is like North Korea And Over Zealously Moderated?

Its the fact I suggested a idea and why that would be good and you just snapped back. And not even listened. No one brought up North Korea...apart from you.

EDIT - Oh and someone deleted my previous message.......maybe it is a bit like North Korea...and overly moderated..

(29 Dec 2021, 6:42 pm)Keeiajs wrote Its the fact I suggested a idea and why that would be good and you just snapped back. And not even listened. No one brought up North Korea...apart from you.

EDIT - Oh and someone deleted my previous message.......maybe it is a bit like North Korea...and overly moderated..

It was moved here:
https://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showt...p?tid=3727&pid=269149#pid269149

...in the relevant thread, where it should have been posted. The design of this forum has nothing to do with buses through Low Fell.

We've always had a very relaxed approach to moderation on this forum - it's something we've took pride in compared to other groups with militant rules and mods who delete posts which aren't appropriate/don't abide by their rules. When people use common sense when posting, their posts don't need to be moderated. Make of that what you will.

(29 Dec 2021, 6:27 pm)Charles41 wrote Is it just me or is the leadership of this forum starting to become a bit authoritarian of late?

Charles

I obviously disagree with that, but more than happy to discuss your concerns if you want to drop me a private message.

(29 Dec 2021, 6:46 pm)Dan wrote It was moved here:
https://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showt...p?tid=3727&pid=269149#pid269149

...in the relevant thread, where it should have been posted. The design of this forum has nothing to do with buses through Low Fell.

We've always had a very relaxed approach to moderation on this forum - it's something we've took pride in compared to other groups with militant rules and mods who delete posts which aren't appropriate/don't abide by their rules. When people use common sense when posting, their posts don't need to be moderated. Make of that what you will.

My apologies, sorry. I just felt like the way you 'snapped' back when it was only idea to stop loads of threads being created for maybe 3-5 posts are needed would be better.

(29 Dec 2021, 6:42 pm)Keeiajs wrote Its the fact I suggested a idea and why that would be good and you just snapped back. And not even listened. No one brought up North Korea...apart from you.

EDIT - Oh and someone deleted my previous message.......maybe it is a bit like North Korea...and overly moderated..

You do know this is a standing joke, here? There is a thread with that name.

(29 Dec 2021, 6:51 pm)Keeiajs wrote My apologies, sorry. I just felt like the way you 'snapped' back when it was only idea to stop loads of threads being created for maybe 3-5 posts are needed would be better.

In fairness, I did already explain to you in another thread why we have the individual thread per topic/service changes system - that the mods implemented it to stop the threads becoming ridiculously long because it caused technical issues. So you could have taken that at face value and not started making more generic threads lol.

(29 Dec 2021, 7:11 pm)peter wrote In fairness, I did already explain to you in another thread why we have the individual thread per topic/service changes system - that the mods implemented it to stop the threads becoming ridiculously long because it caused technical issues. So you could have taken that at face value and not started making more generic threads lol.

I can't recall that. 

And threads becoming 'ridiculously long' Service suggestion V2, they could easily do that.

(29 Dec 2021, 7:19 pm)Keeiajs wrote I can't recall that. 

And threads becoming 'ridiculously long' Service suggestion V2, they could easily do that.

Well you can see for yourself here: https://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showt...p?tid=3719&pid=268583#pid268583 it was only 8 days ago and you even responded to it. 

So then we end up with Upcoming Service Changes V2, V3, V4 and you think hmm I want to look back at posts from the September 2020 service changes and have no idea where to find them - much less clear than just splitting by topic. Service suggestions is different cause it's not actual news it's just people's ideas so they're better all in one thread out of the way. 

Ultimately, if you want a forum with long threads I suppose you're welcome to set one up yourself.

(29 Dec 2021, 7:27 pm)peter wrote Well you can see for yourself here: https://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showt...p?tid=3719&pid=268583#pid268583 it was only 8 days ago and you even responded to it. 

So then we end up with Upcoming Service Changes V2, V3, V4 and you think hmm I want to look back at posts from the September 2020 service changes and have no idea where to find them - much less clear than just splitting by topic. Service suggestions is different cause it's not actual news it's just people's ideas so they're better all in one thread out of the way. 

Ultimately, if you want a forum with long threads I suppose you're welcome to set one up yourself.

What about the upcoming service changes in the Stagecoach Forum, that is where I got the idea from, if it was okay then I thought it would be okay in the GNE section.

(29 Dec 2021, 7:36 pm)Keeiajs wrote What about the upcoming service changes in the Stagecoach Forum, that is where I got the idea from, if it was okay then I thought it would be okay in the GNE section.

That's been left as one, as Stagecoach rarely make changes to services.


Stagecoach were planning changes in April 2020 but we're cancelled due to Covid..... wonder if they'll consider them in the future?

(29 Dec 2021, 7:36 pm)Keeiajs wrote What about the upcoming service changes in the Stagecoach Forum, that is where I got the idea from, if it was okay then I thought it would be okay in the GNE section.

As I told you in that other thread, there are much fewer posts for Stagecoach Upcoming Service Changes - that wasn't changed because it didn't get as ridiculously long like the Upcoming Service Changes thread for GNE as they make fewer service changes which generate much less discussion. All this happened before you even joined the forum and now it's been explained to you I think it's time to drop it - like Dan said, it's not up for debate.

(29 Dec 2021, 7:40 pm)peter wrote As I told you in that other thread, there are much fewer posts for Stagecoach Upcoming Service Changes - that wasn't changed because it didn't get as ridiculously long like the Upcoming Service Changes thread for GNE. All this happened before you even joined the forum and now it's been explained to you I think it's time to drop it - like Dan said, it's not up for debate.

I was in the forum for a while before I made a account. I said to Dan I respect Adrian decision I was just posing a idea...

(29 Dec 2021, 7:41 pm)Keeiajs wrote I was in the forum for a while before I made a account. I said to Dan I respect Adrian decision I was just posing a idea...

You could have private messaged one of the mods and asked first before just going ahead and doing it anyway if you knew the backstory as to why it was changed - or I believe there's a suggestions thread somewhere

(29 Dec 2021, 7:43 pm)peter wrote You could have private messaged one of the mods and asked first before just going ahead and doing it anyway if you knew the backstory as to why it was changed

Maybe i should of, sorry i didn't realise it  was such a major issue

(29 Dec 2021, 7:45 pm)Keeiajs wrote Maybe i should of, sorry i didn't realise it  was such a major issue

If it's not a major issue then why not do what everyone else does and leave things as they are

(29 Dec 2021, 7:53 pm)peter wrote If it's not a major issue then why not do what everyone else does and leave things as they are

I meant a major issue to ask in the public area.

Just loves making threads for every little thing

(29 Dec 2021, 7:58 pm)Keeiajs wrote I meant a major issue to ask in the public area.

It wasn't, I was merely making a suggestion given that you'd already been told the reasons behind it in a public area and you supposedly already knew the reasons behind it yourself, yet you carried on anyway and then got the hump when you were told to drop it. If you knew the reasons and respected the mods decisions you shouldn't have even done it in the first place really but if you felt that strongly you could have DM'd them

(29 Dec 2021, 9:05 pm)peter wrote It wasn't, I was merely making a suggestion given that you'd already been told the reasons behind it in a public area and you supposedly already knew the reasons behind it yourself, yet you carried on anyway and then got the hump when you were told to drop it. If you knew the reasons and respected the mods decisions you shouldn't have even done it in the first place really but if you felt that strongly you could have DM'd them

Well I didn't know the reasons, I am so sorry I didn't know. /s. Also there was no real need for you to get involved and just extend the 'discussion'