(30 Mar 2025, 11:28 am)Michael wrote Not all of the Sunderland changes might of appeared though.

What date would be considered too late for SNE to come up with alternatives for segments of the Sunderland 18 route?

(Yesterday, 9:10 am)Economic505 wrote What date would be considered too late for SNE to come up with alternatives for segments of the Sunderland 18 route?

I think VOSA need 6 weeks notice for changes although I could be completely wrong.

Stagecoach could of already sent more changes to them but they just aren't on the website yet.

With the 3 and 4 becoming end to end, then technically they could of canned the 18 aswell and replaced it with either/or then possibly extend the 12 to cover Biddick Hall?

(Yesterday, 4:11 pm)V514DFT wrote With the 3 and 4 becoming end to end, then technically they could of canned the 18 aswell and replaced it with either/or then possibly extend the 12 to cover Biddick Hall?

In fairness, you'd probably want to keep it. A bus every 7.5 minutes along Stanhope Road is probably deserved. Looking at timetables the 3 and 17 seem to pretty follow each other right now so it's pointless in a way since they go to same place pretty much, ignoring the issues with Laygate.

So there is no east bound services to shields town centre from nevison Avenue as far as the nook. Could have routed the 4 back up that way in a reverse of its route then the 3 as per its new route covering the part of cancelled 17. Or maybe extend a few trips of the x34 to end in town centre

(Yesterday, 5:32 pm)Youngymmv wrote So there is no east bound services to shields town centre from nevison Avenue as far as the nook. Could have routed the 4 back up that way in a reverse of its route then the 3 as per its new route covering the part of cancelled 17. Or maybe extend a few trips of the x34 to end in town centre

If it's where I think it is, it'll be still covered by the 4 but it'll terminate at Biddick Hall and not go beyond there to West Park etc.

(Yesterday, 5:36 pm)Storx wrote If it's where I think it is, it'll be still covered by the 4 but it'll terminate at Biddick Hall and not go beyond there to West Park etc.

I’m so confused by this. So it will terminate at biddick hall then not run back to shields, sure someone could draw us a map

(Yesterday, 7:30 pm)Youngymmv wrote I’m so confused by this. So it will terminate at biddick hall then not run back to shields, sure someone could draw us a map

If I've read it right by the post earlier, it's going to be something like this:

(Yesterday, 7:30 pm)Youngymmv wrote I’m so confused by this. So it will terminate at biddick hall then not run back to shields, sure someone could draw us a map

Not terminate as such.

The 3 will operate as it is from Shields to Whiteleas Bridge via Biddick Hall then go arpund Whiteleas same as 17.   It will then go straight to Shields via the current 4 route down Boldon Lane and Stanhope Rd.

The 4 will operate as it is from Shields to Biddick Hall but then return via same route via Ridgeway, Nook and Westoe 

Nevinson from top end by (what was) King George School and Holder House will lose its links to Boldon Lane etc. 

Unless you wait whole week to get the Sunday only GNE 25a which covers it.

I see so it’s as I had originally suggested about the 4 returning the way it came between nevison Avenue and town centre. Many thanks for clarifying it for me

Service Numbers will confuse some people, The current 3 goes from Biddick to the Nook, so for example, people will for the first few days automatically board the 3 to travel to the Nook

(8 hours ago)Retro Nero wrote Service Numbers will confuse some people, The current 3 goes from Biddick to the Nook, so for example, people will for the first few days automatically board the 3 to travel to the Nook

Agreed there probably better to number them the 9 and 19 tbh imo. The 19 doing the 3 side since it'll be combined with the 18 every 7.5 minutes and the 9 because it's free pretty much and serves similar areas to the 7/8/10/11