(19 Sep 2024, 5:08 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote It didn't stay on the X34 for long. Hopefully it's on again soon. Thanks for your help.

I saw it pass me on the 10 to Jarrow at about 15:05

(19 Sep 2024, 7:51 am)OrangeArrow49 wrote Thank you. I thought it was a South Shields allocation, just it's got Sunderland listed on Bustimes. Do you think it will ever be on again?

If different depots share the same route (e.g 62/63, X34), bustimes will often (assumingly) display the latest depot to register the route. if you click on absolutey any walkergate bus operating the 62/63 today or any other day, it will say its a slatyford bus.

anyone know roughly how many manchester cascades SNE is receiving in the near future?

The 66 plate 26’s transfer to shields to see off the pointer darts, man e200s and release more 37s down to Hartlepool once all the Manchester transfers have arrived

(20 Dec 2024, 5:05 pm)Youngymmv wrote The 66 plate 26’s transfer to shields to see off the pointer darts, man e200s and release more 37s down to Hartlepool once all the Manchester transfers have arrived

Is this happening or just a suggestion,?

(20 Dec 2024, 6:36 pm)Retro Nero wrote Is this happening or just a suggestion,?

Friend in engineering but not sure if he was just suggesting it tbf. Would be logical if happens

(21 Dec 2024, 12:24 am)Youngymmv wrote Friend in engineering but not sure if he was just suggesting it tbf. Would be logical if happens

I don't know but not sure they'll be moving anytime soon they'll be replaced by the electrics if they ever turned up surely? 

The 30/31/36 unless there's been a sudden boost in numbers definitely don't need deckers and as far as I'm aware there's no singles in Manchester moving.

Just reading these messages I work at Slatyford as a driver I can’t see why the 66 plate 260’s would leave. From my understanding the next things to leave are the 27’s as they’re euro 5 engined probably being replaced by stocktons 262’s and then the electrics will probably replace the 241’s

(22 Dec 2024, 3:43 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote Just reading these messages I work at Slatyford as a driver I can’t see why the 66 plate 260’s would leave. From my understanding the next things to leave are the 27’s as they’re euro 5 engined probably being replaced by stocktons 262’s and then the electrics will probably replace the 241’s

Aren't the 27s 238-254 all Euro 6? That was why they were transferred to Slatyford, to meet the CAZ requirements.

(23 Dec 2024, 11:11 am)N391OTY wrote Aren't the 27s 238-254 all Euro 6? That was why they were transferred to Slatyford, to meet the CAZ requirements.

No they're euro 5.
27723-740;817-823 are the only euro 6 E300s. Rest are euro 5 except 506-510 which are euro 3.

In regards to Stagecoach Manchester Transfers ahead of BEE Network Tranche 3 going live in January:

Despite the large number of buses transferred from Stagecoach Manchester's fleet to other Stagecoach operating companies over recent days expect over 100 more to leave the Manchester fleet over the coming weeks and more to follow in spring 2025.

I would imagine current transfers are off the back of the entry into service of the Alexander Dennis Enviro 400 City's 11882-11930 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400EV's 80087-80121 from going of off the Bustimes.org latest fleet list, I am sure there other models of both batches that have yet to be delivered by ADL. 

The next set of transfer will be following the entry into service the Volvo B7L Single / Double Deckers.

Looking at the Fleet List Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's 10401-10429 will be on the move as non of these carry Bee Network Logo's/Livery, all other E400MMC's in Manchester do.

All Enviro 200's will also be on the move once the BZL's enter service.

I would hazard a guess all the B9TL's will be withdrawn and that the Ex First E300's will be amongst other Buses to transfer out of Manchester in the coming weeks/months ahead.

(23 Dec 2024, 7:11 pm)Malarkey wrote In regards to Stagecoach Manchester Transfers ahead of BEE Network Tranche 3 going live in January:

Despite the large number of buses transferred from Stagecoach Manchester's fleet to other Stagecoach operating companies over recent days expect over 100 more to leave the Manchester fleet over the coming weeks and more to follow in spring 2025.

I would imagine current transfers are off the back of the entry into service of the Alexander Dennis Enviro 400 City's 11882-11930 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400EV's 80087-80121 from going of off the Bustimes.org latest fleet list, I am sure there other models of both batches that have yet to be delivered by ADL. 

The next set of transfer will be following the entry into service the Volvo B7L Single / Double Deckers.

Looking at the Fleet List Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's 10401-10422 will be on the move as non of these carry Bee Network Logo's/Livery, all other E400MMC's in Manchester do.

All Enviro 200's 36102-36779/80/82-84/90 & 37146-48-66 & 37631/32 will also be on the move once the BZL's enter service.

I would hazard a guess all the B9TL's will be withdrawn and that the Ex First E300's will be amongst other Buses to transfer out of Manchester in the coming weeks/months ahead.

No doubt the bangers will head up to the NE...........

(23 Dec 2024, 7:17 pm)Michael wrote No doubt the bangers will head up to the NE...........

Absolutely, I think some of the E200's will come here to see off the Plaxton Pointer Darts at South Shields & Hartlepool.

I can see some the Ex First/Go North West B9TL's being converted to Open Top replacing the existing ALX400 Open Toppers at various Stagecoach Depots.

I have read on a Facebook group that SNE is to receive around 23 vehicles from Manchester, 8 to start with to see off the hybrids (I thought there was only 6 left in SNE) and another 15 at a later date

(24 Dec 2024, 10:41 am)toward6931 wrote I have read on a Facebook group that SNE is to receive around 23 vehicles from Manchester, 8 to start with to see off the hybrids (I thought there was only 6 left in SNE) and another 15 at a later date

All for Newcastle?

(23 Dec 2024, 7:48 pm)Malarkey wrote Absolutely, I think some of the E200's will come here to see off the Plaxton Pointer Darts at South Shields & Hartlepool.

I can see some the Ex First/Go North West B9TL's being converted to Open Top replacing the existing ALX400 Open Toppers at various Stagecoach Depots.

It seems the choice for replacement Open toppers are ADL Enviro 400s. The ex Unibus E400s at Warwick are going to be converted to OT for the Stratford Upon Avon City Sightseeing to replace Tridents.

(24 Dec 2024, 10:41 am)toward6931 wrote I have read on a Facebook group that SNE is to receive around 23 vehicles from Manchester, 8 to start with to see off the hybrids (I thought there was only 6 left in SNE)  and another 15 at a later date

We will receiving some E400MMC's in some shape or form from Manchester. 

As a side note Stagecoach South (Chichester) have received a some of the 1062*/1063* batch of 16plate E400MMC's from Manchester to replace the ALX400 Tridents down south.  10401-10422

(24 Dec 2024, 8:43 pm)Malarkey wrote We will receiving some E400MMC's in some shape or form from Manchester. 

As a side note Stagecoach South (Chichester) have received a some of the 1062*/1063* batch of 16plate E400MMC's from Manchester to replace the ALX400 Tridents down south.  10401-10422

It annoys me that divisions receive MMCs to displace ALX400s, just like east Scotland receiving the ex Oxford 16 reg MMCs

(25 Dec 2024, 10:44 am)toward6931 wrote It annoys me that divisions receive MMCs to displace ALX400s, just like east Scotland receiving the ex Oxford 16 reg MMCs

It crazy to think that Stagecoach are finally withdrawing the remaining ALX400's that are 20 years old at various divisions and that they are also starting to withdraw the first lot of Enviro 400's from the SN56 batch at Plymouth.

I don't see it as a surprise various divisions are getting MMC's that are 8-10 years old from Manchester as it will significantly reduce fleet ages across various divisions whilst also reducing emissions with Euro 6 buses replacing Euro 3/4 Buses.

(25 Dec 2024, 6:29 pm)Malarkey wrote It crazy to think that Stagecoach are finally withdrawing the remaining ALX400's that are 20 years old at various divisions and that they are also starting to withdraw the first lot of Enviro 400's from the SN56 batch at Plymouth.

I don't see it as a surprise various divisions are getting MMC's that are 8-10 years old from Manchester as it will significantly reduce fleet ages across various divisions whilst also reducing emissions with Euro 6 buses replacing Euro 3/4 Buses.

There's still quite a few Tridents with ALX400 bodywork kicking around in West.  There's persistent reports that SOME will be replaced by cascaded vehicles from Oxford, but only one, third-hand, Scania has turned up at Gloucester, and that "Some" suggests that the Tridents will be hanging around a while longer .....

(26 Dec 2024, 6:51 am)Ianthegoon wrote There's still quite a few Tridents with ALX400 bodywork kicking around in West.  There's persistent reports that SOME will be replaced by cascaded vehicles from Oxford, but only one, third-hand, Scania has turned up at Gloucester, and that "Some" suggests that the Tridents will be hanging around a while longer .....

Tridents are expected to see service well into 2025 in some areas, Torquay for example as theirs are to be replaced by new electric stock from ZEBRA 2 funding, but they're not expected until towards the end of 2025.

Unsure on some of the areas still currently running open top examples such as Devon, the lakes and there's one at Chesterfield for 'Peak Sightseer'