(09 Jul 2025, 4:23 pm)L469 YVK wrote I was on this yesterday morning and was fine!
Unless it was being parked waiting for a PM driver / fitter to be ferried up.
Apologies it was 6110, seemed to be back on 307/9 the next day
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(Yesterday, 2:34 pm)N1cholas wrote Roomer has it the X20 is going the journey shortly replaced between langley park and durham by a service operated from consett and the sunderland to durham operated by the 20/20A all day so newer buses for it wont be needed, unless deckers are put on the 20/20A
(03 Jul 2025, 11:50 am)logidoodah wrote I'm on a Flixbus right now and just passed 5 or 6 Angel double deckers near Wetherby turn off. My driver is from Stanley Coaches and last year left working for National Express after 3 decades and started talking about how greedy GNE are for grasping at any work they can get eventhough they are a failure of a company and their buses don't work.
He said there'll be some old biddy somewhere waiting for her only hourly (or less) bus to the shops and it doesn't turn up because they have prioritised Silverstone over their own customers.
Interesting take, and I must add they had lots of traffic stuck behind them as all of them were incredibly slow, with destinations not working and bits hanging off with paint scraped etc .. you'd think they were off to the scrapyard not representing a company at a national event and having to do the whole journey there and back!
(Yesterday, 2:34 pm)N1cholas wrote Roomer has it the X20 is going the journey shortly replaced between langley park and durham by a service operated from consett and the sunderland to durham operated by the 20/20A all day so newer buses for it wont be needed, unless deckers are put on the 20/20A
(Yesterday, 4:39 pm)Malarkey wrote No reason why an X5/X15 couldn't be re-routed from Lanchester via Bargate Bank/Hamsteel Lane & Low Moor Road into Langley Park and then continue on existing route.
I also have a Circular Route Suggestion which would replace the Durham-Brandon 21 Extension/X20 Durham-Langley Park whilst connecting other surrounding areas to better connect the County Durham Villages in these areas.
14/15 - Durham - Nevilles Cross - Langley Moor - Brandon - Brandon Village - New Brancepeth - Ushaw Moor - Esh Winning - Langley Park - Witton Gilbert - Sacriston - Plawsworth - Arnison Centre - Framwellgate Moor - University Hospital - Durham
(Yesterday, 4:18 pm)Retro Nero wrote Also circulating amongst the rumours are X20 Sunderland to Durham ( Limited Stop) Park Lane, Board Inn, Houghton Church, Rainton Bridge, Belmont Industrial Park, and Durham.
And 20A staying as it is Eves and Sunday
(Yesterday, 4:57 pm)Retro Nero wrote I believe it is either the X5 or X15 that they are re routing to serve Langley Park
(Yesterday, 4:57 pm)Retro Nero wrote I believe it is either the X5 or X15 that they are re routing to serve Langley Park
(Yesterday, 5:53 pm)L469 YVK wrote Unless one serves Langley Park with the other going via Sacriston and the Arnison Centre?
GNE want to be seriously careful. A certain operator is already launching competing services against the 6/X73 & 21/X21/X66.
And they could easily launch a competing Durham - Consett service with only a PVR of 3x! And I think people would use it if they did!
(Yesterday, 9:41 pm)NEtransport wrote You are deluded.
I doubt a pathetic attempt at competition like the X22/X43 will make any difference to Go North East.
(7 hours ago)BusLoverMum wrote I'm sure that, as in the past, the X20 change is mostly a case of allocating the Durham - Langley Park section of the route to the different service(s) changing the resources required, rather than increasing or decreasing them. It's previously been the standalone 14 and and part of the 20A.That's a pretty big diversion though. Going from a circa 35-40 minute journey time DHM > CON
The X5/15 is currently half of what it was 6 years ago so maybe this is an attempt to make it more viable or to move resource demand away from Deptford.
And, after all, it's a constant that retail parks haven't been well served by bus services and one of the things that GNE has done right, routing the 21 via the Arnison centre, has proved that there is a demand for it.
(7 hours ago)BusLoverMum wrote I'm sure that, as in the past, the X20 change is mostly a case of allocating the Durham - Langley Park section of the route to the different service(s) changing the resources required, rather than increasing or decreasing them. It's previously been the standalone 14 and and part of the 20A.
The X5/15 is currently half of what it was 6 years ago so maybe this is an attempt to make it more viable or to move resource demand away from Deptford.
And, after all, it's a constant that retail parks haven't been well served by bus services and one of the things that GNE has done right, routing the 21 via the Arnison centre, has proved that there is a demand for it.
(3 hours ago)Storx wrote I know it's a few years away yet, but the the 13/14/X20 or whatever number it is this week, really should be ran by the Arriva Durham depot imo.
It's a bit of a headache for GoNorthEast since they shut all the depots nearby and it's a bit out of the beaten track ie. bar Sacriston, it's pretty much all operationally out of area really nowadays.
Obviously won't happen right now but hopefully something that they look at when franchising comes in. Would really help with the 64 capacity issues if they interworked it with the 64 aswell between the Arnison and Durham aswell.
(1 hour ago)Malarkey wrote Or you could just extend the Arriva 64 from Arnison Centre up to Langley Park, I do agree that is does make operational sense for them to be operated out of Belmont.