RE: September 2024 Changes
(02 Jan 2025, 12:12 pm)L469 YVK wrote Just thinking, but could the following not be scrapped:
- 352 - Got 37 and increased new 352 and 353
- 354 - Got new 54
- 355 - Got 38 and X7/X8 could just do all stops via Matthew Bank and Great North Road
- 359 - Got new 54 and 352
- X63 (off peak) - Got new 54 or 62/63
And have the following replace them?
- SNE 54 - Same route as old (basically evening & Sunday service) but covers most of the X63 loop (see map). Altternative stops available within walking distance and 62/63 available as alternatives if needs must.
GNE 352 & 353 - Both extended to NSECH via High Pit
- NEW 352 *see map* (every 60 mins) - North Shields - Billy Mill - New York - Murton Village - Westminster Avenue - Norham Road North - New York Road then as per 353
- 353 (every 60 mins) - North Shields - Billy Mill - North Tyneside Hospital - New York then as per current route with NESCH via Cobalt
Admittedly not perfect, but no 'major' changes and hoovers up all weak commercial services and all mickey mouse subsidised services. Also opens up a few hospital links too including restoring the Forest Hall to North Tyneside Hospital Link.
See the 400m (Nexus Guidance) circle mapper screenshot too. Most homes currently served by Garth 20 & 24 stops are also within 400m walking distance to alternative stops.
Not too sure what could happen with the 335 & 351 though (interwork with 359)
Not sure I agree with this if we're trying to make a decent express network to Killingworth then the X7/X8 need to be part of it imo. I know it's different operators but imo SE Northumberland would be better served with something like this:
which are:
18 (Every 30 Minutes): Morpeth to Walker via Cramlington, Killingworth, Freeman and Byker (Pink)
42 (Every 30 Minutes): Newcastle to Blyth (Red)
43 (Every 30 Minutes): Newcastle to Cramlington Hospital (Red)
X7 (Every 20 Minutes): Newcastle to Blyth via Killingworth (Blue)
X8 (Every 20 Minutes): Newcastle to Cramlington via Killingworth (Orange)
There's arguably too many buses between Burradon and Cramlington and this would tidy them all up and open new links, allover the place.
With those links, you've also sorted out Backworth to Newcastle aswell, the rest of the village will have to change to the Metro/Train at Northumberland Park (or walk)
(02 Jan 2025, 4:20 pm)lewisparker1509 wrote Completely agree. I live on the Q3 route in Walker and it would be much more profitable under Stagecoach as it runs in mostly Stagecoach dominated areas. Most residants in Walker, including myself, purchase Stagecoach only bus passes/tickets as most of our routes are Stagecoach, and go to where we need to go. The route itself is a good route, but the fact it's GNE puts people off, as like I said before, it's a Stagecoach dominated area.
Yeah imagine it's the same in Gosforth with everyone jumping on the Arriva services up there aswell since they get slammed.