Rob...i got my info from a deptford driver whom i've known for 30yrs, so someone is obviously feeding the wrong details.

Can you confirm if any of the volvo/wrights that are operating on London General service 11 will be heading north once they recieve the nbfls?

(20 Sep 2013, 10:49 pm)CatsFast101 wrote Possible new vehicles for the Lime? And in terms of the StreetLites lengths any details?

Forgot about the Lime.

Maybe and hopefully but yet the B10's are still doing good on that route - 4850 - 4855 - especially since they were bought in 1998.

(21 Sep 2013, 10:57 am)Michael wrote Forgot about the Lime.

Maybe and hopefully but yet the B10's are still doing good on that route - 4850 - 4855 - especially since they were bought in 1998.

The B10s on the Lime are solid.

3813 broken down at Byermoor.

The B10s on the Lime are solid.
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Could the scanias off the fab56 make it onto the lime?

(21 Sep 2013, 12:38 pm)nk55 wrote The B10s on the Lime are solid.

Could the scanias off the fab56 make it onto the lime?
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Could do, would be nice if the Lime brand was changed, i hate the light green colour on the scania's for the highwayman....


Would be nice for it to be under a new brand.

(21 Sep 2013, 1:10 pm)Liam wrote Didn't yesterday's post suggest that the Lime is inline for brand new vehicles early next year? Therefore, the Scania's aren't going to make their way onto the Lime if this order does occur.

Probley's was but it doesn't hurt to suggest other things incase it doesn't happen.

Can't wait for the new year, least half of the fleet will get better buses.


Its working out what is getting new buses from the cascaded vehicles.

Isn't it about time Peterlee depot had something significant happen with the fleet? The buses they have are ran into the ground, they're rattly, unreliable, and above all, they look truly scruffy. The X7s aren't much better, on an express service, wouldn't it make sense for the vehicles used to have high backed seats, as its an hour and a half end to end...

(21 Sep 2013, 6:05 pm)pcvdriver wrote Isn't it about time Peterlee depot had something significant happen with the fleet? The buses they have are ran into the ground, they're rattly, unreliable, and above all, they look truly scruffy. The X7s aren't much better, on an express service, wouldn't it make sense for the vehicles used to have high backed seats, as its an hour and a half end to end...

I think the WTX will get new buses soon. Well I still believe they'll get some of the maroon Scanias

(21 Sep 2013, 7:06 pm)aureolin wrote I think the WTX will get new buses soon. Well I still believe they'll get some of the maroon Scanias

The remaining "MetroLINK" Scanias are all down to go Northern, so I'm doubtful of that now, unfortunately.
Next opportunity is in January!

(21 Sep 2013, 7:12 pm)Daniel wrote The remaining "MetroLINK" Scanias are all down to go Northern, so I'm doubtful of that now, unfortunately.
Next opportunity is in January!

It's not just them, it's the MPDs too..

(21 Sep 2013, 8:17 pm)pcvdriver wrote It's not just them, it's the MPDs too..

We've already had confirmation that the older Dennis MPDs are being withdrawn (up to 540 at least), so you can expect "East Durham" MPDs 501-3, 510, 519/520, 522 and 535-9 to all be withdrawn and replaced with newer Transbus MPD examples.
Other than that, I'm doubtful Peterlee will receive anything further.

The next opportunity for Solars to be freed up will be in January, when "Fab Fifty Six" receives new B9s. It is then when "Wear Tees Xpress" X7 may receive four new(er) Scanias, and the Volvos can go Northern.

(21 Sep 2013, 8:24 pm)Daniel wrote We've already had confirmation that the older Dennis MPDs are being withdrawn (up to 540 at least), so you can expect "East Durham" MPDs 501-3, 510, 519/520, 522 and 535-9 to all be withdrawn and replaced with newer Transbus MPD examples.
Other than that, I'm doubtful Peterlee will receive anything further.

The next opportunity for Solars to be freed up will be in January, when "Fab Fifty Six" receives new B9s. It is then when "Wear Tees Xpress" X7 may receive four new(er) Scanias, and the Volvos can go Northern.

Think they should have a total rethink, but what would fit round some of the tighter service routes like the 209 Horden Hall Estate /Alder Road or 208 Holme Hill. The whole brand is looking a bit scruffy and dated, almost like a 1990's local minibus company. It's about time they were brought kicking and screaming into the 21st century!! The reliability must be an issue as dropped services equals lost customer confidence.. The 209's were missing on Wednesday from about 11.30 till about 3pm... No wonder there's so many taxis in Peterlee...

Maybe we should have a whip round for loose change to help GNE do something productive!!!

(21 Sep 2013, 9:16 pm)pcvdriver wrote Think they should have a total rethink, but what would fit round some of the tighter service routes like the 209 Horden Hall Estate /Alder Road or 208 Holme Hill. The whole brand is looking a bit scruffy and dated, almost like a 1990's local minibus company. It's about time they were brought kicking and screaming into the 21st century!! The reliability must be an issue as dropped services equals lost customer confidence.. The 209's were missing on Wednesday from about 11.30 till about 3pm... No wonder there's so many taxis in Peterlee...

Maybe we should have a whip round for loose change to help GNE do something productive!!!

Loose change?
Maybe that is what all the 5p's are being used for!

On the fleet news it's got

4962 (NL52 WVT) and 4963 (NL52 WVU) have all been repainted into Go North East's generic "Northern" livery - i didn't know they went Northern, unless iv'e missed the post... known me i have lol

(22 Sep 2013, 9:04 am)Michael wrote On the fleet news it's got

4962 (NL52 WVT) and 4963 (NL52 WVU) have all been repainted into Go North East's generic "Northern" livery - i didn't know they went Northern, unless iv'e missed the post... known me i have lol

I don't believe we've noted it on here - we just had the information passed on while they were at (or due to go to) Saltmeadows.

(22 Sep 2013, 9:10 am)Daniel wrote I don't believe we've noted it on here - we just had the information passed on while they were at (or due to go to) Saltmeadows.

Ah cheer's, Thanks... thought i'd missed that post!


Shame they going Northern, they could of being branded for something else

(22 Sep 2013, 9:04 am)Michael wrote On the fleet news it's got

4962 (NL52 WVT) and 4963 (NL52 WVU) have all been repainted into Go North East's generic "Northern" livery - i didn't know they went Northern, unless iv'e missed the post... known me i have lol

There is a pic of 4962 on The Northern Road Transport Trust facebook page

(22 Sep 2013, 9:21 am)citaro5284 wrote There is a pic of 4962 on The Northern Road Transport Trust facebook page

For anyone who isn't a member of that group on Facebook:

Photo credit to: Richard Joseph Kenco Tiplady.

(22 Sep 2013, 9:26 am)Daniel wrote For anyone who isn't a member of that group on Facebook:

Photo credit to: Richard Joseph Kenco Tiplady.

I quite liked the Northern livery for the spares at first (better than the random white buses we had before anyway) but I'm not sure it works all that well. Bit basic, and just looks confused with two different sets of logos (GNE & Northern) that stand out equally.

(20 Sep 2013, 6:49 pm)Rob wrote In terms of the additional 15 vehicles which could be arriving next year, details have not been confirmed. What I will say, is that there is 1 route which has had no change for a while, and a lot of you have speculated for a while that it will get upgrades before the Waggonway. That one!

Anything else that needs cleared up?

Yes, when will my leather seated wi-fi enabled next stop announcement Waggonway vehicles be arriving?

I'm expecting it to be December....2035

(22 Sep 2013, 12:39 pm)gtomlinson wrote Yes, when will my leather seated wi-fi enabled next stop announcement Waggonway vehicles be arriving?

I'm expecting it to be December....2035

Living in a dream world there... Add another 15 years onto that :p

(22 Sep 2013, 12:51 pm)Daniel wrote Living in a dream world there... Add another 15 years onto that :p

I'm moving to Low Fell in December so will no doubt see the Waggonway massively upgraded

Off topic from the above, but I saw an X88 today and it made me think - surely Washington have single deck buses available on a Sunday, so why is a 'Red Arrows' Gemini used?

(22 Sep 2013, 3:09 pm)BJ10VUS wrote Off topic from the above, but I saw an X88 today and it made me think - surely Washington have single deck buses available on a Sunday, so why is a 'Red Arrows' Gemini used?

I think a red arrows Gemini is the usual X88 allocation for a Sunday. Don't know what the Saturday allocation is? The reasoning for the sunday allocation I'm not sure, newer vehicles? Rather than working the already problematic Cadet into the ground?

(22 Sep 2013, 3:17 pm)CatsFast101 wrote I think a red arrows Gemini is the usual X88 allocation for a Sunday. Don't know what the Saturday allocation is? The reasoning for the sunday allocation I'm not sure, newer vehicles? Rather than working the already problematic Cadet into the ground?

I agree about the Cadet - especially if the 'South Tyne' ones are any example to go by!

The only thing I don't understand is, surely with the 'Metrolink' and 'WSS' being on a reduced frequency, (as well as the 'Red Arrows'), they could use a Wright Solar or Dart MPD?

(22 Sep 2013, 3:23 pm)BJ10VUS wrote I agree about the Cadet - especially if the 'South Tyne' ones are any example to go by!

The only thing I don't understand is, surely with the 'Metrolink' and 'WSS' being on a reduced frequency, (as well as the 'Red Arrows'), they could use a Wright Solar or Dart MPD?

A ''Metrolink'' Solar would be practical, the right size too. When the X22 is introduced, do you think a ''Angel'' Gemini will be used?

Wonder if the 13/14 will get the Northern Scania's or the 15/15A

(22 Sep 2013, 5:48 pm)Michael wrote Wonder if the 13/14 will get the Northern Scania's or the 15/15A

I read (or heard) that the 13/14 are working off an x22.
Whether that is true or not, is another matter...

It will improve the reliability of the 13/14 though - as I feel half the problems that route has, is due to the fact the vehicles never get near Chester.

(22 Sep 2013, 5:52 pm)Andreos1 wrote I read (or heard) that the 13/14 are working off an x22.
Whether that is true or not, is another matter...

It will improve the reliability of the 13/14 though - as I feel half the problems that route has, is due to the fact the vehicles never get near Chester.

Could the 13/14 not run from a different depot? not sure of its locations as i'm not from the area.