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Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - October 2013

Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - October 2013

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(16 Oct 2013, 3:44 pm)fozzovmurton wrote Is the Drifter brand staying, just with a new colour scheme or is the 60 being completely rebranded, also will 61 just be going Red Northern or still stay with Simplicity as it has been lately?

I believe the name will be retained, yes.
The 61 will indeed go Northern. The "SimpliCity" Versas currently allocated to the 61 are to move over to the 39.
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(16 Oct 2013, 3:44 pm)fozzovmurton wrote Is the Drifter brand staying, just with a new colour scheme or is the 60 being completely rebranded, also will 61 just be going Red Northern or still stay with Simplicity as it has been lately?

Don't know about the 60 staying as Drifter - not sure of Rob confirmed it

The 61 wont get Versa's as 4 are heading to 34/34A and the last 3 will go as Simplicity livery for the 39.
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(16 Oct 2013, 3:46 pm)Michael wrote Don't know about the 60 staying as Drifter - not sure of Rob confirmed it

The 61 wont get Versa's as 4 are heading to 34/34A and the last 3 will go as Simplicity livery for the 39.

See my previous post. :p

8306-09 are still undecided, I'm told. Whilst original plans were indeed for the Versas to be allocated to service 39 and repainted into "SimpliCity" livery, if the feedback from the October 2013 Sunderland consultation is positive, they will not be allocated to service 39. As I said yesterday (?), they have the potential to be allocated to service X36 instead.
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(16 Oct 2013, 3:51 pm)Daniel wrote See my previous post. :p

8306-09 are still undecided, I'm told. Whilst original plans were indeed for the Versas to be allocated to service 39 and repainted into "SimpliCity" livery, if the feedback from the October 2013 Sunderland consultation is positive, they will not be allocated to service 39. As I said yesterday (?), they have the potential to be allocated to service X36 instead.

We posted at the same time Tongue

I forgot about that, it does seem the X36 is doing well and deserves the newer buses but it all does depend on the results of the consultation.

We still got no confirmed date for when these changes could happen?
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(16 Oct 2013, 3:51 pm)Daniel wrote See my previous post. :p

8306-09 are still undecided, I'm told. Whilst original plans were indeed for the Versas to be allocated to service 39 and repainted into "SimpliCity" livery, if the feedback from the October 2013 Sunderland consultation is positive, they will not be allocated to service 39. As I said yesterday (?), they have the potential to be allocated to service X36 instead.

Or go to the 61 maybe? With 8319 making up its PVR? Or even to the new 26?
All that on the proviso the comments about the proposals are positive.
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(16 Oct 2013, 3:58 pm)CatsFast101 wrote Or go to the 61 maybe? With 8319 making up its PVR? Or even to the new 26?
All that on the proviso the comments about the proposals are positive.

I don't think so, unfortunately.
8319 is to act as the spare for services 39 and 42. 8320-24 to 39, 8325-29 to 42.

As I've previously noted, the PVR of the revised 26 service will be 7, and it's quite likely that it will be allocated Cadets. Depending on when these changes happen (I'd assume late November to early December - even though changes don't tend to occur in December), I'm led to believe the 61 will temporarily be allocated B10BLEs.

Arguably, I believe the allocation of the 9s is what everyone should be speculating about! That's the interesting one, also at a PVR of 7.
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(16 Oct 2013, 4:01 pm)Daniel wrote I don't think so, unfortunately.
8319 is to act as the spare for services 39 and 42. 8320-24 to 39, 8325-29 to 42.

As I've previously noted, the PVR of the revised 26 service will be 7, and it's quite likely that it will be allocated Cadets. Depending on when these changes happen (I'd assume late November to early December - even though changes don't tend to occur in December), I'm led to believe the 61 will temporarily be allocated B10BLEs.

Arguably, I believe the allocation of the 9s is what everyone should be speculating about! That's the interesting one, also at a PVR of 7.

Percy Main - The usual ''Centurion'' renowns.
Sunderland - SPD's?
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(16 Oct 2013, 4:31 pm)W179SCU wrote Percy Main - The usual ''Centurion'' renowns.
Sunderland - SPD's?

I believe the plan is for all runs to be from Percy Main now, contrary to what I suggested could happen yesterday.
The overall PVR at Deptford will remain unchanged, whilst the overall PVR at Percy Main will be increased by 3.
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(16 Oct 2013, 4:35 pm)Daniel wrote I believe the plan is for all runs to be from Percy Main now, contrary to what I suggested could happen yesterday.
The overall PVR at Deptford will remain unchanged, whilst the overall PVR at Percy Main will be increased by 3.

Really? - Well Centurion Renowns?
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(16 Oct 2013, 4:55 pm)JakeSavage wrote I'd imagine light running through the tunnel won't be cheap on those short 9s.

It is possible to interwork short services with long services, it just requires timings to be altered slightly and drivers will be given less layover.
Of course, as ever, this is subject to change. I personally would have had the 9 go to Deptford fully, but this is a PVR increase of 7 to Deptford and a decrease of 4 to Percy Main...
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(16 Oct 2013, 4:57 pm)Daniel wrote It is possible to interwork short services with long services, it just requires timings to be altered slightly and drivers will be given less layover.
Of course, as ever, this is subject to change. I personally would have had the 9 go to Deptford fully, but this is a PVR increase of 7 to Deptford and a decrease of 4 to Percy Main...

Transfer the Omnicity's to Deptford?
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(16 Oct 2013, 5:09 pm)W179SCU wrote Transfer the Omnicity's to Deptford?

Like I say, I think the plan is to keep the 9 at Percy Main - despite what I would love to happen.

On another note...

PB0003954/267 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Blackhall Mill, Mill Race and St Thomas More RC Comp School given service number 854 effective from 21-Oct-2013. To amend Route and Timetable.
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(16 Oct 2013, 2:54 pm)mattdw92 wrote Attached photo of one of the three.

I thought it was gonna be in green anyways I think the livery will look epic plus my mate Chris Collins will get an upgrade on his local route he lives on 60 route anyways today I've seen a metrolink Scania on 88/88A what will be most likely the last time as from Sunday it will be connection 4 and an even rarer working a Quaylink on 58 which will in a month or so be a versa route ironically enough
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(16 Oct 2013, 5:16 pm)CitaroFavourite wrote I thought it was gonna be in green anyways I think the livery will look epic plus my mate Chris Collins will get an upgrade on his local route he lives on 60 route anyways today I've seen a metrolink Scania on 88/88A what will be most likely the last time as from Sunday it will be connection 4 and an even rarer working a Quaylink on 58 which will in a month or so be a versa route ironically enough

That's truly amazing, never heard more informative information! - I'm just fascinated!
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(16 Oct 2013, 5:23 pm)W179SCU wrote That's truly amazing, never heard more informative information! - I'm just fascinated!

Ahahahahahaha! That actually made me chuckle!
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*faceplam*

We need a smiley thing for it!

Just to let everyone know, Ill be getting a upgrade also a Monday and Tuesday when the M1 is upgraded to Citaro's!

Also near end of the year for the 56!

Maybe also New buses on my local route to! (Stagecoach)
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Like I say, I think the plan is to keep the 9 at Percy Main - despite what I would love to happen.

From looking at the Allocations for Percy Main do they even have an Extra 3 Buses to Allocate to the 9. As at the minute the 9 has been Allocated pretty much anything that's available.

And I'm in agreement with Daniel that the 9 should be moved over to Deptford and have it use the following.

x4 - Omnicity (5247/48/49 and 5274)
x3 - Solars (4964/65 From Washington) and 4944 From Chester le Street

And then have the Silver Arrows transferred to Washington and the South Tyne over to Percy Main.
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(16 Oct 2013, 5:48 pm)GTM wrote Upgrades...

Where's my goddamn solars

They may or may not be receiving branding over the next few days, from tomorrow... Rolleyes
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(16 Oct 2013, 5:48 pm)GTM wrote Upgrades...

Where's my goddamn solars

Heard since there has been such an outcry about the DAF's been withdrawn they are going to be kept on the 28 for another couple of years at least Tongue
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(16 Oct 2013, 5:57 pm)citaro5284 wrote Heard since there has been such an outcry about the DAF's been withdrawn they are going to be kept on the 28 for another couple of years at least Tongue

I know, my plans for a DAF farewell running day have been knocked for six as a result ! Huh
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Since I started driving, I have only used the bus a few times and I haven't been on a DAF for ages. The last time I used one was probably around 6 years ago when they would appear on the 50. They were not bad to travel on back then. Have they deteriorated badly or something over the last few years? Just wondering why they are hated so much. Cheers
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(16 Oct 2013, 7:15 pm)Washingtonian wrote Since I started driving, I have only used the bus a few times and I haven't been on a DAF for ages. The last time I used one was probably around 6 years ago when they would appear on the 50. They were not bad to travel on back then. Have they deteriorated badly or something over the last few years? Just wondering why they are hated so much. Cheers

They are unreliable, juddering, overheating, slow, lumbering pieces of junk. The condensation created inside literally floods the seats, they leak like the Titanic after it hit the iceberg, they are too hot inside and handle roads about as well as a Tiny Tikes car.

Oh and the seats are paperthin, there's no legroom and they quite frankly smell weird

I'm sure some of them were rather pleasant when they did that airport work. A few years of being battered up and down the wilds and wannies of County Durham and Newcastle Bank have done them in
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(16 Oct 2013, 7:15 pm)Washingtonian wrote Since I started driving, I have only used the bus a few times and I haven't been on a DAF for ages. The last time I used one was probably around 6 years ago when they would appear on the 50. They were not bad to travel on back then. Have they deteriorated badly or something over the last few years? Just wondering why they are hated so much. Cheers

I personally don't mind them, more so the Waggonway as opposed to the Lambton Worms (crikey, they don't half make some noise when stationary!)
Perhaps if my Mercs were replaced on the 2A by them, my feelings towards them would change quite significantly.
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(16 Oct 2013, 4:57 pm)Dan wrote It is possible to interwork short services with long services, it just requires timings to be altered slightly and drivers will be given less layover.
Of course, as ever, this is subject to change. I personally would have had the 9 go to Deptford fully, but this is a PVR increase of 7 to Deptford and a decrease of 4 to Percy Main...


Think you'd best have a look at that on paper. You can't cut 15 minutes running/layover time out of the North Shields - Sunderland buses, so unless theyre increasing pvr to 8, they'll have to operate them as two seperate cycles 4 buses + 3 buses).
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(16 Oct 2013, 7:50 pm)JakeSavage wrote Think you'd best have a look at that on paper. You can't cut 15 minutes running/layover time out of the North Shields - Sunderland buses, so unless theyre increasing pvr to 8, they'll have to operate them as two seperate cycles 4 buses + 3 buses).

I worked out the PVR as 7 when I used current timings and worked out that if those were to be retained, the short and normal runs would not interwork.
I have since been told that it is possible to keep it as PVR 7 while interworking them - I've not looked at the timings I was given myself, but it sounded above board. Will have a look tomorrow though.
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(16 Oct 2013, 7:21 pm)GTM wrote They are unreliable, juddering, overheating, slow, lumbering pieces of junk. The condensation created inside literally floods the seats, they leak like the Titanic after it hit the iceberg, they are too hot inside and handle roads about as well as a Tiny Tikes car.

Oh and the seats are paperthin, there's no legroom and they quite frankly smell weird

I'm sure some of them were rather pleasant when they did that airport work. A few years of being battered up and down the wilds and wannies of County Durham and Newcastle Bank have done them in

Imagine (if you can) when the original GNE versions were pride of the fleet operating the x66?!
It is hard and difficult, but back in the day, it happened.

Even back then, they were sh!te
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