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Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016

Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016

RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
GNE have a good working relationship with Beamish, so cannot see the issue with them branding a bus up to advertise the museum.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(03 Aug 2016, 6:33 pm)citaro5284 wrote GNE have a good working relationship with Beamish, so cannot see the issue with them branding a bus up to advertise the museum.

It isn't, to me its a good move for both Beamish and GNE. 

Anyone got a picture?
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(03 Aug 2016, 6:33 pm)citaro5284 wrote GNE have a good working relationship with Beamish, so cannot see the issue with them branding a bus up to advertise the museum.

I'm not sure anyone else who has posted/discussed it, has an issue either...
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(03 Aug 2016, 7:00 pm)Michael wrote It isn't, to me its a good move for both Beamish and GNE. 

Anyone got a picture?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/133853963@.../contacts/ ( Not my Photo )

Also note is the branded Streetlites are also gaining route info

https://www.flickr.com/photos/133853963@.../contacts/ Also not my photo
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(03 Aug 2016, 7:23 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote https://www.flickr.com/photos/133853963@.../contacts/  ( Not my Photo )

Also note is the branded Streetlites are also gaining route info

https://www.flickr.com/photos/133853963@.../contacts/  Also not my photo



Thanks South Tyne Lad, i really like that style for the route info on the Prince Bishops, look much better than just white on black!
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(03 Aug 2016, 7:01 pm)Andreos1 wrote I'm not sure anyone else who has posted/discussed it, has an issue either...

Absolutely. Was just a surprise to see it.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(03 Aug 2016, 7:23 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote https://www.flickr.com/photos/133853963@.../contacts/  ( Not my Photo )

Also note is the branded Streetlites are also gaining route info

https://www.flickr.com/photos/133853963@.../contacts/  Also not my photo

Looks good with the Beamish livery, the route details are very bold though on 5432
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
Ive received the following from a local councillor. It looks like councillors and presumably other stakeholders have been sent the following comms.

Looks like Get Around weekly and monthly tickets are decreased, 90p fares now £1 but peak scrapped, and day tickets frozen.

Just received this email re- simplified fares for young people in full time education.


Our Ref: TD

Wednesday 3 August 2016


Simplified Fares for Young People, Students & Apprentices - from 24th August 2016


I am writing to advise you of improvements we’re making to fares for young people and students that will apply across the North East Combined Authority (NECA) area on Go North East services.

From 24th August we are offering the following to young people and those in full time education of any age, including those on recognised apprentice schemes:

• A simple £1 single fare for all aged 18 & under across the NECA area, whatever the place, time or day of travel. A small number of exceptions do apply.
• The ability for parents to purchase tickets on their mobile and gift it to their child’s mobile instantly or in advance.
• Our day ticket price, which covers the entire NECA area, is frozen at £3.75 and our weekly and monthly ticket prices are simplified.
• Everyone in full time education regardless of age is eligible for our day, week and monthly student tickets, so if you’re still learning you’re still saving.
• Student tickets available to those on apprenticeships in response to the growing numbers of people on these government supported schemes.

After five years of having the key smartcard for young people, our research and experience is showing that young people in particular do not want to carry around additional cards. Therefore we are giving people the option of purchasing tickets via our mobile phone app, in addition to online and on the bus.

There will be instances where it is necessary for someone to prove their entitlement to these discounts. In this circumstance, we will simply ask for any form of age or student identification issued by recognised third parties such as universities and student unions. We are taking a more consumer and retail approach to such matters as part of these changes.

There are also a small number of exceptions to our £1 any journey anytime ticket on some bespoke services where the cost of operation is higher such as night buses, special event services and a small number of dedicated school bus services.

Full details of our prices are shown below. A communication and advertising campaign is planned to support these changes and the benefits and simplicity they offer.

We believe that we have one of the simplest and most value for money ticketing schemes of any bus company in the UK with this scheme.


Yours sincerely


Kevin Carr
Managing Director


Go North East
Young Person and Full Time Learning Ticket Prices from 24th August 2016


18 & under single

£1

1 day ticket

£3.75

7 day ticket

£15.50

Monthly ticket (paid for by monthly subscription online)

£58


£1 18 & under single ticket exceptions:
Wear Tees Express X7 end to end journeys which will be £2
Tyne Tees Express X9/X10 end to end journeys which will be £2
Night Bus services N20, N21, N56
Dedicated school buses to St Bedes Lanchester and Park View Chester le Street
Special services such as Great North Run, Sunderland Air Show and AD122
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 7:20 am)Adrian wrote Ive received the following from a local councillor. It looks like councillors and presumably other stakeholders have been sent the following comms.

Looks like Get Around weekly and monthly tickets are decreased, 90p fares now £1 but peak scrapped, and day tickets frozen.

I don't understand how buses from those two schools are more expensive to use than other dedicated scholars services. Would love to know the reasons why. However, it is pleasing to see peak ticket pricing scrapped.
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 7:54 am)Andreos1 wrote I don't understand how buses from those two schools are more expensive to use than other dedicated scholars services. Would love to know the reasons why. However, it is pleasing to see peak ticket pricing scrapped.

I wonder if it has anything to do with them being commercial operations? Thats all i can think of.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 8:04 am)S813 FVK wrote I wonder if it has anything to do with them being commercial operations? Thats all i can think of.


DCC have a list on their website, showing which schools have a supported service and which don't. There are others apart from Park View and St Bedes (such as Hermitage), but I have no idea if GNE provide a commercial scholars service to those schools.
The ironic thing is, that commercially it could backfire - quite a number of those schools have GNE services operating in the vicinity who will be essentially undercutting the scholars service.
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 8:18 am)Andreos1 wrote The ironic thing is, that commercially it could backfire - quite a number of those schools have GNE services operating in the vicinity who will be essentially undercutting the scholars service.

Yep. We have the 15 to Durham/Consett which both come not long after the school buses have left and the 30 to Stanley (the 15:40 journey from Lanchester calls into the school anyway)
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 8:25 am)S813 FVK wrote Yep. We have the 15 to Durham/Consett which both come not long after the school buses have left and the 30 to Stanley (the 15:40 journey from Lanchester calls into the school anyway)

Assuming there is a direct bus between home and school, the savings will be quite a bit over the course of a school year. £2 a day versus £2 singles.

My mother complained when it went to 40p a day and thought I was scamming her 10p! She would be having kittens if I was still at school! Bring back 5p singles!
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 8:30 am)Andreos1 wrote Assuming there is a direct bus between home and school, the savings will be quite a bit over the course of a school year. £2 a day versus £2 singles.

My mother complained when it went to 40p a day and thought I was scamming her 10p! She would be having kittens if I was still at school! Bring back 5p singles!

Yeah for me, i would need to get the 30 to Stanley and then the 16 down to South Stanley - i could just walk but it would be much much easier just getting the school bus which goes direct.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
Stagecoach do that at my school, Stanley Travel run the scholars service but there is a special 18 service leaving slightly later on a morning from Walker Bus Terminal and I believe Stagecoach offer different fares on this service according to some people I know from school

EDIT: A. Similar thing happens with the 158 scholars because the students of Gosforth East Middle also get the Q3 or the Arriva 46 (Ariva operate in the afternoon, GNE in the morning
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
Suppose it depends what the agreement is? Perhaps Durham Council have asked for scholars buses, but have little in the way of funding to pay for them, so have negotiated to pass the cost on to the students instead?

Bit rubbish, but you wouldn't expect to get a dedicated bus service at little cost. Nothing to stop you using weekly or monthly tickets though.
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
http://www.durham.gov.uk/concessionaryspareseats

Here's details of the schools in Durham and the various systems in place, including schools who don't have an agreement with the council, details of free school travel and £1.50 a day travel.

There is a methodology/reasoning behind it, but unsure what that is at the moment.
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
Is 353 the only bus to head out of a zone and terminate back inside it? Airport is inside T&W, The next stop is inside northumberland, whilst FLE is back in T&W.
How does this work with network one passes et cetera?
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 10:03 am)Jamie M wrote Is 353 the only bus to head out of a zone and terminate back inside it? Airport is inside T&W, The next stop is inside northumberland, whilst FLE is back in T&W.
How does this work with network one passes et cetera?

The 4 does too. Goes in to Co Durham, but starts/terminates in T&W. Network One passes are valid if boarding and alighting within the T&W sections.
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 10:09 am)Andreos1 wrote The 4 does too. Goes in to Co Durham, but starts/terminates in T&W. Network One passes are valid if boarding and alighting within the T&W sections.

The 238 also
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 7:20 am)Adrian wrote Ive received the following from a local councillor. It looks like councillors and presumably other stakeholders have been sent the following comms.

Looks like Get Around weekly and monthly tickets are decreased, 90p fares now £1 but peak scrapped, and day tickets frozen.

Information available on the Go North East website below:

http://www.simplygo.com/youngpeople
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 10:09 am)Andreos1 wrote The 4 does too. Goes in to Co Durham, but starts/terminates in T&W. Network One passes are valid if boarding and alighting within the T&W sections.

(04 Aug 2016, 10:03 am)Jamie M wrote Is 353 the only bus to head out of a zone and terminate back inside it? Airport is inside T&W, The next stop is inside northumberland, whilst FLE is back in T&W.
How does this work with network one passes et cetera?

I've never seen anyone board in Prestwick while on the 353, There's no timetables up there either. And the Bus Stops are just Wooden Poles with the old style Arriva Flags there from the late 90s early 00s.
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 10:34 am)South Tyne Lad wrote I've never seen anyone board in Prestwick while on the 353, There's no timetables up there either. And the Bus Stops are just Wooden Poles with the old style Arriva Flags there from the late 90s early 00s.
I did, 4 days ago.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 10:22 am)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote The 238 also

Then there are the services that start/finish in Co Durham and enter T&W for a short while, such as the 265.
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
Any truth in some of the Omnidekka's coming to Deptford to replace the Vykings?
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 11:16 am)Michael wrote Any truth in some of the Omnidekka's coming to Deptford to replace the Vykings?
Never heard that one before, what's even wrong with the vykings? I've been on about 4 of them on the 9 and they've all gotten shifting easily, albeit with a huge noise.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 11:16 am)Michael wrote Any truth in some of the Omnidekka's coming to Deptford to replace the Vykings?
Aren't some going to Chester-le-Street? Think I heard that said before but not 100% on that. Think the Vykings can stay at Deptford as I think they mainly only do short 9's and peak time 265's, also Chester-le-Street have Lolyne's that need replacing.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
No idea, its just what I've heard... maybe Dan or Citaro could confirm?
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016
(04 Aug 2016, 11:18 am)Jamie M wrote Never heard that one before, what's even wrong with the vykings? I've been on about 4 of them on the 9 and they've all gotten shifting easily, albeit with a huge noise.

Nothing is wrong with them.
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