(31 Oct 2016, 9:09 pm)Cock Robin wrote Unless they've done some sort of 'deal' with Arriva. The X7 I saw today was well loaded leaving M'bro (as were many of the OKs at the time).

The only of the GNE services I've seen consistently quiet is the X10.

(17 Oct 2016, 10:13 am)2bagstew wrote New 202 Station Town to Seaham
I can see it having problems going around the back of Front Street in Station Town as it's a narrow uneven road and complicated by parked cars


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Durham CC not happy with the 202 turning at front Street Station Town, road too narrow.
202 may may have too miss Station Town and turn at the Victoria inn Wingate.

(02 Nov 2016, 4:25 pm)2bagstew wrote Durham CC not happy with the 202 turning at front Street Station Town, road too narrow.
202 may may have too miss Station Town and turn at the Victoria inn Wingate.

My grandfather lived in Front Street, Station Town, and I was surprised by the suggestion of using the back lane - even for minibuses - though Google StreetView does show it without any vehicles:- Front Street back lane.

(02 Nov 2016, 4:25 pm)2bagstew wrote Durham CC not happy with the 202 turning at front Street Station Town, road too narrow.
202 may may have too miss Station Town and turn at the Victoria inn Wingate.

the 202 route in station town will be:

Salters Lane
North Road
Front Street
Station Road
B1280
Station Town Acclom street
East Terrace
Front Street
B1280
Wingate station road
front street
north road
Salters Lane

(02 Nov 2016, 6:13 pm)cbma06 wrote the 202 route in station town will be:

Salters Lane
North Road
Front Street
Station Road
B1280
Station Town Acclom street
East Terrace
Front Street
B1280
Wingate station road
front street
north road
Salters Lane

Station Town Acclom Street/ East Terrace have has not existed for over 40 years. Now fenced off green pasture.

WINGATE Fir Tree
Salters Lane
North Road East
Front Street
STATION TOWN Station Road
Left Turn at Church Street/Front Street Junction Then right in to behind the Front Street Then right at the Front Street/Millbank Terrace Junction Then Right on to Front Street.
STATION TOWN Station Road
Front Street
North Road West
Salters Lane
WINGATE Fir Tree

DCC are are not happy with the bus entering the Church Street/Front Street Junction Then going down behind Front Street Then turning right at the Front Street/Millbank Terrace Junction Then exiting Right on to Front Street again..

(02 Nov 2016, 7:47 pm)2bagstew wrote Station Town Acclom Street/ East Terrace have has not existed for over 40 years. Now fenced off green pasture.

WINGATE Fir Tree
Salters Lane
North Road East
Front Street
STATION TOWN Station Road
Left Turn at Church Street/Front Street Junction Then right in to behind the Front Street Then right at the Front Street/Millbank Terrace Junction Then Right on to Front Street.
STATION TOWN Station Road
Front Street
North Road West
Salters Lane
WINGATE Fir Tree

DCC are are not happy with the bus entering the Church Street/Front Street Junction Then going down behind Front Street Then turning right at the Front Street/Millbank Terrace Junction Then exiting Right on to Front Street again..

What I typed was the route description that GNE sent into VOSA.


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(02 Nov 2016, 7:47 pm)2bagstew wrote Station Town Acclom Street/ East Terrace have has not existed for over 40 years. Now fenced off green pasture.

WINGATE Fir Tree
Salters Lane
North Road East
Front Street
STATION TOWN Station Road
Left Turn at Church Street/Front Street Junction Then right in to behind the Front Street Then right at the Front Street/Millbank Terrace Junction Then Right on to Front Street.
STATION TOWN Station Road
Front Street
North Road West
Salters Lane
WINGATE Fir Tree

DCC are are not happy with the bus entering the Church Street/Front Street Junction Then going down behind Front Street Then turning right at the Front Street/Millbank Terrace Junction Then exiting Right on to Front Street again..

(02 Nov 2016, 7:59 pm)cbma06 wrote What I typed was the route description that GNE sent into VOSA.


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Google Maps are good at leaving streets in that have long since disappeared there are more several examples in Wingate, plays havoc with the Sat Nav

(02 Nov 2016, 8:11 pm)2bagstew wrote Google Maps are good at leaving streets in that have long since disappeared there are more several examples in Wingate, plays havoc with the Sat Nav

the only other way 202 was to run to  deaf hill loop and back which is suitable for buses or do run to a19 hart flyover and come back through hutton henry both problems are restricted because of time but would solve station town probelm if it urned round at wingate vic turning circle where 246 use to turn it would mean station town and bottom of wingate would lose out

(02 Nov 2016, 7:47 pm)2bagstew wrote Station Town Acclom Street/ East Terrace have has not existed for over 40 years. Now fenced off green pasture.

WINGATE Fir Tree
Salters Lane
North Road East
Front Street
STATION TOWN Station Road
Left Turn at Church Street/Front Street Junction Then right in to behind the Front Street Then right at the Front Street/Millbank Terrace Junction Then Right on to Front Street.
STATION TOWN Station Road
Front Street
North Road West
Salters Lane
WINGATE Fir Tree

DCC are are not happy with the bus entering the Church Street/Front Street Junction Then going down behind Front Street Then turning right at the Front Street/Millbank Terrace Junction Then exiting Right on to Front Street again..

Thank heavens it's not just me - I spent close on an hour searching GoogleMaps trying to make sense of the route.
I was familiar with the area around Front Street Station Town when my grandfather lived there and tried to merge my knowledge with the map - without success.

My great grandmother lived in Millbank Terrace and my great aunt (my grandmother's sister) live at 22 North Road East, Wingate.

New X6/X7 timetable

(04 Nov 2016, 8:03 am)cbma06 wrote New X6/X7 timetable

Thanks for sharing. =)

It's spoiling the perfectly adequate existing GNE routes just so they can play tit-for-tat with Arriva - because they're going to Seaham GNE will now has to have a direct Sunderland to Hartlepool bus. Yes it's competition, but overall many people get a worse service or lose links completely.

And what's with this not showing a Park Lane time on the inward routes to Sunderland?

(04 Nov 2016, 11:25 am)Greg in Weardale wrote And what's with this not showing a Park Lane time on the inward routes to Sunderland?

The route ends at the winter gardens, that's where the X6/X7 will interwork.

But surely passengers need to know from the timetable that it's actually going to Park Lane.

(04 Nov 2016, 8:03 am)cbma06 wrote New X6/X7 timetable

Thanks for Sharing

(04 Nov 2016, 12:17 pm)Greg in Weardale wrote But surely passengers need to know from the timetable that it's actually going to Park Lane.

It will on the bus shelter, its ending point is the Winter Gardens i think.

Not sure, maybe Dan can confirm it? but i'm sure it'll change from the X6 to the X7 and vice versa at the Winter Gardens, it'll probables work like the 38/238, with through fares available.

(04 Nov 2016, 12:17 pm)Greg in Weardale wrote But surely passengers need to know from the timetable that it's actually going to Park Lane.

Will they be able to travel to Park Lane? I would hope so...
However according to the timetables, passengers will be arriving in to Sunderland on the X6, but continuing up the road to Park Lane on the X7. Don't know what the technicalities are with that.

By looking at the timetable it could be Peterlee operating those two. Considering the evening X6/X7 terminates at Peterlee. Possibly Solos allocated or maybe another single deck Optare. X5 I'm guessing is the current X35

(05 Nov 2016, 7:47 am)Brian13 wrote By looking at the timetable it could be Peterlee operating those two. Considering the evening X6/X7 terminates at Peterlee. Possibly Solos allocated or maybe another single deck Optare. X5 I'm guessing is the current X35

The only thing that be changed for the X35 is that it will be renumbered as X5, Peterlee will be operating the X6 and X7 as morning journeys starts at Peterlee.


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(05 Nov 2016, 7:47 am)Brian13 wrote By looking at the timetable it could be Peterlee operating those two. Considering the evening X6/X7 terminates at Peterlee. Possibly Solos allocated or maybe another single deck Optare. X5 I'm guessing is the current X35

Correct.  Peterlee are to operate both the X6 & X7.  Both will interwork in Sunderland.  IE if going to Sunderland change to X7 and vice versa.  X5 is just X35 renumbered.  Can't yet comment on vehicle types though, sorry.

(04 Nov 2016, 8:03 am)cbma06 wrote New X6/X7 timetable

Have you got a clearer timetable?

When are the x5/x6/x7 changes in Decemmber?

(05 Nov 2016, 5:29 pm)LivingOnGNE wrote When are the x5/x6/x7 changes in Decemmber?

4th December

(05 Nov 2016, 5:20 pm)LivingOnGNE wrote Have you got a clearer timetable?

The timetables that I've posted of the X6 and X7 are clear, I can read them with no problem.


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(05 Nov 2016, 5:29 pm)LivingOnGNE wrote When are the x5/x6/x7 changes in Decemmber?

Check post 218 as it has the changes in detail.


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The X5/6//7 changes have been listed on the Connect Tees Valley upcoming service changes pdf - though it lists the X7 s being withdrawn as the revised service doesn't serve the Tees Valley. 

It seems the X6 will serve King Owsy Drive in Hartlepool rather than the hospital, alike the 23. This is the first time a Go North East bus has served the area.

(06 Nov 2016, 12:45 pm)James101 wrote It seems the X6 will serve King Owsy Drive in Hartlepool rather than the hospital, alike the 23. This is the first time a Go North East bus has served the area.

That is correct, yes. It was confirmed on this forum a few weeks ago.

(05 Nov 2016, 7:19 pm)cbma06 wrote Check post 218 as it has the changes in detail.


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Ok thx

(06 Nov 2016, 2:40 pm)LivingOnGNE wrote Ok thx

I see the 202 service is on Traveline
The service is running the same time as the X7 from Station Town to Peterlee then the same time and route as now.


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