Looks like the 11X is withdrawn from the 3rd September

Registration number PB0003954/683
Licence Number PB0003954
Variation number 3
Status Variation
Service number. 11, 11A
Service type Normal Stopping
Limited Stop
Start point Whitley Bay, Seafront/Park Avenue
Finish point Metrocentre Interchange
Via
Date received 07 Jul 2017
Effective date 03 Sep 2017

(19 Jul 2017, 3:38 pm)Michael wrote With the buses changing in Sunderland, i hope we don't see any drastic cuts.

Anyone know what the 8 change is?, as i get this to and from work.

It's just the change from go northern to go north east limited Michael

(23 Jul 2017, 3:59 pm)Tom wrote Looks like the 11X is withdrawn from the 3rd September

Registration number PB0003954/683
Licence Number PB0003954
Variation number 3
Status Variation
Service number. 11, 11A
Service type Normal Stopping
Limited Stop
Start point Whitley Bay, Seafront/Park Avenue
Finish point Metrocentre Interchange
Via
Date received 07 Jul 2017
Effective date 03 Sep 2017

Will this also mean the X39 no longer continuing to Gateshead?

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Registration number PB0003954/304
Licence Number PB0003954
Variation number 18
Status Variation
Service number. 309, 310, X39
Service type Normal Stopping
Start point Blyth Bus Station
Finish point Newcastle Haymarket Bus Station
Via
Date received 07 Jul 2017
Effective date 03 Sep 2017
End date
Supported by subsidies? In Part
Local authorities covered by route Nexus (Tyne & Wear)
Northumberland County Council
TAOs covered by route North East of England

(24 Jul 2017, 3:03 pm)L469 YVK wrote Will this also mean the X39 no longer continuing to Gateshead?

Maybe as just seen there is a variation to the X39/309/310 from the 3rd September too - but it looks like the extra 1 which runs off the X39 at around 5 will still be running

(24 Jul 2017, 3:10 pm)Tom wrote Maybe as seen there is a variation to the X39/309/310 from the 3rd September too - but it looks like the extra 1 which runs off the X39 at around 5 will still be running

Did you manage to get the times up for the X39 after 03/09?

Checked for other potential routes and none appeared. The Coasters or 57s couldn't exactly be docked to have morning X39 journeys running from Gateshead so I take it that the afternoon journeys will most likely be cancelled at a rough guess.

Also, with an extra B9 likely to be available when the B5TLs enter service on the TTX (3x cascaded to TVT, 2x spare at Riverside for TTX / TVT and 1x spare at Hexham for TVT), could 6084 be transferred to allow the 309/310 to run standalone during the day in the run upto christmas to avoid any major delays causing a knock on effect?

(24 Jul 2017, 9:23 pm)L469 YVK wrote Did you manage to get the times up for the X39 after 03/09?

Checked for other potential routes and none appeared. The Coasters or 57s couldn't exactly be docked to have morning X39 journeys running from Gateshead so I take it that the afternoon journeys will most likely be cancelled at a rough guess.

Also, with an extra B9 likely to be available when the B5TLs enter service on the TTX (3x cascaded to TVT, 2x spare at Riverside for TTX / TVT and 1x spare at Hexham for TVT), could 6084 be transferred to allow the 309/310 to run standalone during the day in the run upto christmas to avoid any major delays causing a knock on effect?

No I have just seen the Vosa registration, but I would imagine they would terminate at Newcastle from the 3rd September?

And I would hope 6084 or another B9TL would transfer to Percy Main as there have been loads of B7s on the 309/310 at the minute.

PB0003954/829 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: South Shields , Kepple Street to Newcastle, St Mary's Street
Service number: X27
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 10 Sep 2017

PB0003954/828 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Heworth, Metro to Newcastle, Barras Bridge
Service number: R3
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 10 Sep 2017

PB0003954/827 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: South Shields , Bent Park Road/Frenchmans Lea to Newcastle, Barras Bridge
Service number: R1
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 10 Sep 2017

PB0003954/683 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Whitley Bay, Seafront/Park Avenue to Metrocentre Interchange
Service number: 11 (11A,)
Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/654 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: South Stanley to Metrocentre
Service number: M6,M7,M8,704 (836)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/637 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Team Valley, Kingsway South to Wrekenton, Cardinal Hume Catholic School
Service number: 881
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/603 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: WARDLEY, ELLEN WILKINSON ESTATE to TEAM VALLEY
Service number: 92
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/559 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Hexham Bus Station to Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station
Service number: 10 (10A, 10B, 10X)
Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/460 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Wallsend to St Thomas More RC School
Service number: 676 (677)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/459 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Monkseaton to St Thomas More RC School
Service number: 673 (674, 675, 679)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/307 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Market Street to Newcastle, Market Street
Service number: 97 (97A, X97)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/304 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Blyth Bus Station to Newcastle Haymarket Bus Station
Service number: 309 (310, X39)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/296 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Winlaton Bus Station to Gateshead Interchange
Service number: 49 (49A, 49C, 64)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

(23 Jul 2017, 9:45 pm)Acky81 wrote It's just the change from go northern to go north east limited Michael

Not sure on that:


Dan's post:


As part of a rationalisation of O-Licences across the Go-Ahead Group, Go North East will surrender its 'Go Northern' licence from 23rd July 2017, with all vehicles and services being registered under 'Go North East'.

There has been a recent change in stance by the traffic commissioner on bus operators which have multiple licences but are managed as one single entity. I would imagine both Arriva and Stagecoach North East will follow suit, at some point this year.

As such, you will see every 'Go Northern' service cancelled and re-registered under 'Go North East Ltd'. Possibly not worth copying and pasting all of them, as there'll be quite a few!  




I would think they were all done by 23rd July, not sure though, Maybe someone from Go North East could clear it up.

A690 road closures from 31st July for resurfacing.
It's on the council website. The road signs are up warning of its closure. Unfortunatelt, there's nothing that I can see on the GNE website about the 20 or the X5 being diverted.

(27 Jul 2017, 9:31 am)Andreos1 wrote A690 road closures from 31st July for resurfacing.
It's on the council website. The road signs are up warning of its closure. Unfortunatelt, there's nothing that I can see on the GNE website about the 20 or the X5 being diverted.

Might be on the council website - but does not mean that they have informed key stakeholders, including bus operators.

(27 Jul 2017, 1:37 pm)Dan wrote Might be on the council website - but does not mean that they have informed key stakeholders, including bus operators.

I posted the following in December 15, regarding a road closure at Daisy Hill and DCC apparently being at fault.

...Operators have spoken about building a partnership scheme with local LA's, however partnership work and stakeholder involvement isn't just about waiting for one body to approach the other.
However, maybe it is worth operators being proactive and finding out in advance, without having to rely on local authorities?
It took me 20 seconds to find that closure as well as a few more minutes, finding works that will cause delay or diversion to a whole range of services across the county.
If I was working for a road haulage operator or passenger transport company, I could disseminate that in moments - enabling the planning of rotas, allocations etc for the next however many weeks.
Heck, I could even speak to contacts in the local authority, build relationships with contractors or utility firms and get things moving well in advance.
Without having to wait for a phone call and be completely ignorant of the works when mentioned.
I may even get drivers involved and enable a process that would involve the sharing and recording of information, so it can be reported back to a higher level - rather than just discussed amongst themselves in the canteen...

It appears the change from being reactive to road closures to proactive about them hasnt quite kicked in yet

There have been similar examples in Washington recently with the closure of roads in Glebe.

Passengers affected by a bridge being demolished and buses being diverted/shuttle buses introduced have been the ones spending time and making the effort in seeking out info, that in my opinion should have been shared well before it was.

Same with Gateshead Interchange...

I knew about the roadworks...Arriva did...GNE claimed it was short notice. It was on the council website for 2 months beforehand.

Falling down on the job.

(27 Jul 2017, 10:28 pm)Ambassador wrote Same with Gateshead Interchange...

I knew about the roadworks...Arriva did...GNE claimed it was short notice. It was on the council website for 2 months beforehand.

Falling down on the job.

Ditto with the closure of the A195 at Tyne Dock.

It was several hours after the two week closure started, that they let passengers on social media know about the diversion and delays.
It's a canny hike between the A194 and A195. Especially when passengers are heading to work.

Michael's slipping

On VOSA yesterday

PB0003954/837 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Metrocentre Coach Park to Newcastle City Centre
Service number: X50 Newcastle United Soccerbus
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

PB0003954/836 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station to Stanley Bus Station
Service number: X31
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

PB0003954/835 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Peterlee Bus Station to Middlesbrough Bus Station
Service number: X10
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

PB0003954/834 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station to Peterlee, Bus Station
Service number: X10
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

PB0003954/833 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Great Park, Sage Park & Ride to Newcastle, City Centre
Service number: Q3
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

PB0003954/832 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Market Street West to Whickham, Fellside Road
Service number: 97
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

PB0003954/831 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, New Bridge Street to Heworth, Metro
Service number: 58
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

PB0003954/830 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station to Chester-Le-Street, Front Street
Service number: 830
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

Busy with work at the minute, got loads to do before September so haven't checked it

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Michael's slipping

On VOSA yesterday

PB0003954/837 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Metrocentre Coach Park to Newcastle City Centre
Service number: X50 Newcastle United Soccerbus
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

PB0003954/836 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station to Stanley Bus Station
Service number: X31
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

PB0003954/835 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Peterlee Bus Station to Middlesbrough Bus Station
Service number: X10
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

PB0003954/834 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station to Peterlee, Bus Station
Service number: X10
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

PB0003954/833 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Great Park, Sage Park & Ride to Newcastle, City Centre
Service number: Q3
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

PB0003954/832 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Market Street West to Whickham, Fellside Road
Service number: 97
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

PB0003954/831 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, New Bridge Street to Heworth, Metro
Service number: 58
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017

PB0003954/830 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station to Chester-Le-Street, Front Street
Service number: 830
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 06 Aug 2017
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830 a new match day service?

On today:


PB0003954/839 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: NEWCASTLE, BEWICK STREET to CLOSE HOUSE, LODGE GATES
Service number: MG1
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 27 Sep 2017

(01 Aug 2017, 6:05 pm)Michael wrote On today:


PB0003954/839 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: NEWCASTLE, BEWICK STREET to CLOSE HOUSE, LODGE GATES
Service number: MG1
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 27 Sep 2017

This will be for the Masters which starts on the 27th at Close House.

Due to a short notice road closure by Sunderland City Council, there will be a diversion in place for Red Arrows X1 on 7 and 8 August.

Northbound buses will unable to run direct along the Washington Highway and will need to be diverted along Bonemill Lane, via Fatfield Bridge and Station Road to Shiney Row.

Due to the low bridge in the area, single deck buses will have to be used to keep delays down to a minimum and will not have the standard features of normal Red Arrows buses.



Wonder what will be allocated and where the red arrows will go for the time-being?

(04 Aug 2017, 11:01 am)Michael wrote Due to a short notice road closure by Sunderland City Council, there will be a diversion in place for Red Arrows X1 on 7 and 8 August.

Northbound buses will unable to run direct along the Washington Highway and will need to be diverted along Bonemill Lane, via Fatfield Bridge and Station Road to Shiney Row.

Due to the low bridge in the area, single deck buses will have to be used to keep delays down to a minimum and will not have the standard features of normal Red Arrows buses.



Wonder what will be allocated and where the red arrows will go for the time-being?

Probably just swap the allocation with the 5/50?

(04 Aug 2017, 11:01 am)Michael wrote Due to a short notice road closure by Sunderland City Council, there will be a diversion in place for Red Arrows X1 on 7 and 8 August.

Northbound buses will unable to run direct along the Washington Highway and will need to be diverted along Bonemill Lane, via Fatfield Bridge and Station Road to Shiney Row.

Due to the low bridge in the area, single deck buses will have to be used to keep delays down to a minimum and will not have the standard features of normal Red Arrows buses.



Wonder what will be allocated and where the red arrows will go for the time-being?

The signs have been up for a while, advising of road closures.
Like other works, the term 'short notice' is up for debate.

As it is during the week and PVR will be high, I would imagine vehicle swaps would take place.
Deckers for the 5/50 and Omnicities for the X1 would fill some of the PVR. That jumps straight out.
Where the rest of the single deckers come from, not too sure.
Not sure Washington could fill the PVR of the X1 with their own suitably sized vehicles. Solo's wouldn't really suffice.

(04 Aug 2017, 11:15 am)Andreos1 wrote The signs have been up for a while, advising of road closures.
Like other works, the term 'short notice' is up for debate.

As it is during the week and PVR will be high, I would imagine vehicle swaps would take place.
Deckers for the 5/50 and Omnicities for the X1 would fill some of the PVR. That jumps straight out.
Where the rest of the single deckers come from, not too sure.
Not sure Washington could fill the PVR of the X1 with their own suitably sized vehicles. Solo's wouldn't really suffice.

You must of read my mind 

The PVR will be lower during the wweek as only 13 vehicles required, as opposed to a Saturday when 14 plus vehicle for X88 is required

(04 Aug 2017, 11:19 am)JP6004 wrote You must of read my mind 

The PVR will be lower during the wweek as only 13 vehicles required, as opposed to a Saturday when 14 plus vehicle for X88 is required

Great minds

Aye. If it was a Sunday for example, it would have been a lot easier borrowing Mercs off the 4.
I say this, as I would hope dupes would be ran on the X1 to make up for the shortfall in seats.

(04 Aug 2017, 11:15 am)Andreos1 wrote The signs have been up for a while, advising of road closures.
Like other works, the term 'short notice' is up for debate.

As it is during the week and PVR will be high, I would imagine vehicle swaps would take place.
Deckers for the 5/50 and Omnicities for the X1 would fill some of the PVR. That jumps straight out.
Where the rest of the single deckers come from, not too sure.
Not sure Washington could fill the PVR of the X1 with their own suitably sized vehicles. Solo's wouldn't really suffice.

Yes - the signs have been up for a while for an overnight road closure, where buses would not be affected and hence Go North East would not need to advertise disruption to the X1.

Sunderland City Council changed their plans at short notice (as suggested by Go North East) and informed operators yesterday that the closure would instead be held during the day. So yes, short notice, and credit where credit is due, the company has had three days to make plans to accommodate this road closure and a diversion which would affect passengers the least.

As suggested, there will be a direct swap of allocations between services 5/50 and X1 on Monday and Tuesday, and the shortfall will be made up of red Scania L94s being exchanged with Red Arrows branded Volvo B9TLs at Chester-le-Street. The Volvo B9TLs will be allocated to services 13/X25 at Chester-le-Street.

(04 Aug 2017, 12:03 pm)Dan wrote Yes - the signs have been up for a while for an overnight road closure, where buses would not be affected and hence Go North East would not need to advertise disruption to the X1.

Sunderland City Council changed their plans at short notice (as suggested by Go North East) and informed operators yesterday that the closure would instead be held during the day. So yes, short notice, and credit where credit is due, the company has had three days to make plans to accommodate this road closure and a diversion which would affect passengers the least.

As suggested, there will be a direct swap of allocations between services 5/50 and X1 on Monday and Tuesday, and the shortfall will be made up of red Scania L94s being exchanged with Red Arrows branded Volvo B9TLs at Chester-le-Street. The Volvo B9TLs will be allocated to services 13/X25 at Chester-le-Street.

Enthusiasts Galore at Gateshead and Newcastle, then.

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(04 Aug 2017, 12:03 pm)Dan wrote Yes - the signs have been up for a while for an overnight road closure, where buses would not be affected and hence Go North East would not need to advertise disruption to the X1.

Sunderland City Council changed their plans at short notice (as suggested by Go North East) and informed operators yesterday that the closure would instead be held during the day. So yes, short notice, and credit where credit is due, the company has had three days to make plans to accommodate this road closure and a diversion which would affect passengers the least.

As suggested, there will be a direct swap of allocations between services 5/50 and X1 on Monday and Tuesday, and the shortfall will be made up of red Scania L94s being exchanged with Red Arrows branded Volvo B9TLs at Chester-le-Street. The Volvo B9TLs will be allocated to services 13/X25 at Chester-le-Street.

Pretty certain the overnight closures were on the roundabout at Shiney Row and were nothing to do with these closures on the A182.

https://www.nexus.org.uk/bus/updates?ope...nned-works

http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/roadworks

I may be wrong.

Can the X1 deckers not be used between galleries and Newcastle and have singles on galleries to the Lane ?


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(04 Aug 2017, 12:23 pm)cbma06 wrote Can the X1 deckers not be used between galleries and Newcastle and have singles on galleries to the Lane ?


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If Go North East had more than four days notice that the road closure had changed from overnight (as agreed with stakeholders) to daytime, then perhaps they could have 'split' the X1 for the duration.

As there has only been four days notice, there is not enough time for Go North East to make a change like this.

From the Northumberland County Council site:

10, 10B, 10X

Reduction in Sunday evening services

10 Ex Hexham
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 3 journeys are changed - 19:18 is 3mins earlier; 20:18 is 5mins earlier; 21:28 is 5mins later.

10 Ex Newcastle
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 4 journeys are changed - 20:05 &
21:05 are 5mins later; 22:15 & 23:15 are 15mins later.

10B Ex Prudhoe
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 4 journeys between 19:27-22:29 are withdrawn

10B Ex Newcastle
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 3 journeys between 20:40-22:40 are withdrawn.

10X Ex Prudhoe
M-F; No changes

10X Ex Newcastle
M-F: No changes


309/310/X39

Variations in Tyne & Wear during Norham Rd, Bridge replacement. Only 309 operates in Northumberland.
309 Ex Newcastle & Ex Blyth

No timetable or route changes in Northumberland

(04 Aug 2017, 3:10 pm)Michael wrote From the Northumberland County Council site:

10, 10B, 10X

Reduction in Sunday evening services

10 Ex Hexham
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 3 journeys are changed - 19:18 is 3mins earlier; 20:18 is 5mins earlier; 21:28 is 5mins later.

10 Ex Newcastle
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 4 journeys are changed - 20:05 &
21:05 are 5mins later; 22:15 & 23:15 are 15mins later.

10B Ex Prudhoe
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 4 journeys between 19:27-22:29 are withdrawn

10B Ex Newcastle
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 3 journeys between 20:40-22:40 are withdrawn.

10X Ex Prudhoe
M-F; No changes

10X Ex Newcastle
M-F: No changes


309/310/X39

Variations in Tyne & Wear during Norham Rd, Bridge replacement. Only 309 operates in Northumberland.
309 Ex Newcastle & Ex Blyth

No timetable or route changes in Northumberland

7 last 10B runs dropped? That's not nice.

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