(11 Jun 2019, 5:39 pm)JP6004 wrote

Love a good network mix up

Looking in more depth at VOSA:

Registration number Operator name Service number Start point Finish point
PB0003954/1094

New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 33 (33A) East Herrington Sunderland Docks
PB0003954/427

New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 113 Stanley Bus Station Flint Hill, Robson Terrace
PB0003954/1102

New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X30 (X31, X32)
PB0003954/253

New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 108 Benwell St Cuthberts School Hazelrigg

PB0003954/400
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 823 (830) Byermoor or Tanfield Lea Lanchester St Bedes RC School

PB0003954/402
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 819 (820, 827, 829) Chopwell Bus Stand or Hamsterley Mill Lintzford Road Lanchester St Bedes RC School

PB0003954/630
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED

PB0003954/511
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 652 Holystone Whitley Road Killingworth George Stephenson High School

PB0003954/867
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED

PB0003954/1066
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED

PB0003954/1101
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED M7 () Stanley Bus Station Stanley Bus Station

PB0003954/397
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X9 Newcastle Eldon Square Bus Station Middlesbrough Bus Station

PB0003954/401
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 824 Castleside Church Lanchester St Bedes RC School

PB0003954/403
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 821 (826) Shotley Bridge Elm Park Lanchester St Bedes RC School

PB0003954/1093
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 5 () Jarrow, Bus Station South Shields

PB0003954/1095
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 97 (X97) Newcastle, Market Street Newcastle, Eldon Square

PB0003954/1096
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 197 () Whickham Front Street Whickham Front Street

PB0003954/1097
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 704 () Stanley Bus Station Stanley Bus Station

PB0003954/1098
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED A1 () Sunderland Interchange Seaburn Park

PB0003954/1099
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED A2 () Washington Galleries Seaburn Park

PB0003954/1100
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED M6 (836, ) Metrocentre Lanchester

PB1008075/138
New KINGSLEY COACHES LTD 365 The Grange, North Muskham Southwell Minster School

(11 Jun 2019, 5:44 pm)Michael wrote Looking in more depth at VOSA:

Looks like M6 and 30 being merged

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(11 Jun 2019, 5:44 pm)Michael wrote Looking in more depth at VOSA:

And 97 going to eldon square....

(11 Jun 2019, 5:47 pm)JP6004 wrote

Looks like M6 and 30 being merged

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And 97 going to eldon square....

Quite a few changes not on yet:

Registration number Operator name Service number Start point Finish point
PB0003954/1046

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 92 () WARDLEY TEAM VALLEY NORTH END
PB0003954/955

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 939 () TEAM VALLEY KINGSWAY NORTH SUNDERLAND PARK LANE
PB0003954/648

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 6 (6A) Stanley Bus Station Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station
PB0003954/649

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 12 (12A) Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station Winlaton Bus Station
PB0003954/687

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 95 () LOBLEY HILL, CRAGSIDE GDNS GATESHEAD METRO
PB0003954/365

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X15 (X5) Consett Bus Station Durham Bus Station
PB0003954/824

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X9 (X10) Dalton Park Middlesbrough Bus Station
PB0003954/528

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 90 () TEAM VALLEY, SOUTH BUS STATION WINLATON BUS STATION
PB0003954/304

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 309 (310, X39) Blyth Bus Station Newcastle Haymarket Bus Station
PB0003954/367

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 45 (45E, 46, 47) Consett Bus Station Newcastle Eldon Sqaure
PB0003954/580

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 1 (1A,1B) Whitley Bay, The Links Metrocentre
PB0003954/1075

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X21 () Newcastle, Eldon Square Tinddale Crescent
PB0003954/86

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 93 (94) Gateshead Metro Gateshead Metro
PB0003954/769

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 50 (50A) Durham Bus Station South Shields, Market

PB0003954/823
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X9 (X10) Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station Peterlee, Bus Station

PB0003954/690
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED Q3 (Q3) NEWCASTLE, HAYMARKET 'S' GREAT PARK P+R SITE

PB0003954/364
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X70 (X71, X72) Consett Bus Station Newcastle Eldon Square

PB0003954/296
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 49 (49A, 49C, 64) Winlaton Bus Station Gateshead Interchange

PB0003954/775
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 78 (78A) Consett Bus Station Park Lane Interchange, Sunderland

PB0003954/520
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 29 (29) GATESHEAD METRO dep KIBBLESWORTH, SQUARE

PB0003954/559
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 10 (10A, 10B, 10X) Hexham Bus Station Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station

PB0003954/631
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 680 (680S) Hexham Bus Station Bellingham Heritage Centre

PB0003954/870
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED H1 (H1) Blackett Street SOUTH TYNESIDE HOSPITAL



Interesting to see the 29 and H1 under GNE


Changes down for 21st July.

(11 Jun 2019, 5:59 pm)Michael wrote Quite a few changes not on yet:

Registration number Operator name Service number Start point Finish point
PB0003954/1046

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 92 () WARDLEY TEAM VALLEY NORTH END
PB0003954/955

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 939 () TEAM VALLEY KINGSWAY NORTH SUNDERLAND PARK LANE
PB0003954/648

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 6 (6A) Stanley Bus Station Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station
PB0003954/649

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 12 (12A) Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station Winlaton Bus Station
PB0003954/687

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 95 () LOBLEY HILL, CRAGSIDE GDNS GATESHEAD METRO
PB0003954/365

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X15 (X5) Consett Bus Station Durham Bus Station
PB0003954/824

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X9 (X10) Dalton Park Middlesbrough Bus Station
PB0003954/528

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 90 () TEAM VALLEY, SOUTH BUS STATION WINLATON BUS STATION
PB0003954/304

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 309 (310, X39) Blyth Bus Station Newcastle Haymarket Bus Station
PB0003954/367

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 45 (45E, 46, 47) Consett Bus Station Newcastle Eldon Sqaure
PB0003954/580

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 1 (1A,1B) Whitley Bay, The Links Metrocentre
PB0003954/1075

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X21 () Newcastle, Eldon Square Tinddale Crescent
PB0003954/86

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 93 (94) Gateshead Metro Gateshead Metro
PB0003954/769

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 50 (50A) Durham Bus Station South Shields, Market

PB0003954/823
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X9 (X10) Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station Peterlee, Bus Station

PB0003954/690
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED Q3 (Q3) NEWCASTLE, HAYMARKET 'S' GREAT PARK P+R SITE

PB0003954/364
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X70 (X71, X72) Consett Bus Station Newcastle Eldon Square

PB0003954/296
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 49 (49A, 49C, 64) Winlaton Bus Station Gateshead Interchange

PB0003954/775
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 78 (78A) Consett Bus Station Park Lane Interchange, Sunderland

PB0003954/520
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 29 (29) GATESHEAD METRO dep KIBBLESWORTH, SQUARE

PB0003954/559
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 10 (10A, 10B, 10X) Hexham Bus Station Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station

PB0003954/631
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 680 (680S) Hexham Bus Station Bellingham Heritage Centre

PB0003954/870
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED H1 (H1) Blackett Street SOUTH TYNESIDE HOSPITAL



Interesting to see the 29 and H1 under GNE


Changes down for 21st July.

Only 1 journey on the 29 is going to GCT

(11 Jun 2019, 5:59 pm)Michael wrote Quite a few changes not on yet:

Registration number Operator name Service number Start point Finish point
PB0003954/1046

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 92 () WARDLEY TEAM VALLEY NORTH END
PB0003954/955

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 939 () TEAM VALLEY KINGSWAY NORTH SUNDERLAND PARK LANE
PB0003954/648

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 6 (6A) Stanley Bus Station Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station
PB0003954/649

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 12 (12A) Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station Winlaton Bus Station
PB0003954/687

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 95 () LOBLEY HILL, CRAGSIDE GDNS GATESHEAD METRO
PB0003954/365

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X15 (X5) Consett Bus Station Durham Bus Station
PB0003954/824

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X9 (X10) Dalton Park Middlesbrough Bus Station
PB0003954/528

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 90 () TEAM VALLEY, SOUTH BUS STATION WINLATON BUS STATION
PB0003954/304

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 309 (310, X39) Blyth Bus Station Newcastle Haymarket Bus Station
PB0003954/367

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 45 (45E, 46, 47) Consett Bus Station Newcastle Eldon Sqaure
PB0003954/580

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 1 (1A,1B) Whitley Bay, The Links Metrocentre
PB0003954/1075

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X21 () Newcastle, Eldon Square Tinddale Crescent
PB0003954/86

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 93 (94) Gateshead Metro Gateshead Metro
PB0003954/769

Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 50 (50A) Durham Bus Station South Shields, Market

PB0003954/823
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X9 (X10) Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station Peterlee, Bus Station

PB0003954/690
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED Q3 (Q3) NEWCASTLE, HAYMARKET 'S' GREAT PARK P+R SITE

PB0003954/364
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X70 (X71, X72) Consett Bus Station Newcastle Eldon Square

PB0003954/296
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 49 (49A, 49C, 64) Winlaton Bus Station Gateshead Interchange

PB0003954/775
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 78 (78A) Consett Bus Station Park Lane Interchange, Sunderland

PB0003954/520
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 29 (29) GATESHEAD METRO dep KIBBLESWORTH, SQUARE

PB0003954/559
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 10 (10A, 10B, 10X) Hexham Bus Station Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station

PB0003954/631
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 680 (680S) Hexham Bus Station Bellingham Heritage Centre

PB0003954/870
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED H1 (H1) Blackett Street SOUTH TYNESIDE HOSPITAL



Interesting to see the 29 and H1 under GNE


Changes down for 21st July.

No doubt all will become clear soon enough. Probs be on website in week or 2

(11 Jun 2019, 6:09 pm)JP6004 wrote

No doubt all will become clear soon enough. Probs be on website in week or 2

Better be, as i'm on holiday from the 1st July to 12th July... means everyone gets some peace

(11 Jun 2019, 6:11 pm)Michael wrote Better be, as i'm on holiday from the 1st July to 12th July... means everyone gets some peace

You coming on holiday with me, like?

(11 Jun 2019, 6:09 pm)JP6004 wrote

No doubt all will become clear soon enough. Probs be on website in week or 2

Schools off from July 19th, it’s not just the summer timetable is it?

(11 Jun 2019, 6:12 pm)Dan wrote

You coming on holiday with me, like?

Dan and Michael sitting in a tree.....

(11 Jun 2019, 6:12 pm)Dan wrote

You coming on holiday with me, like?

, I'm off to Mexico, literally can't wait.

(11 Jun 2019, 6:16 pm)Stanleyone wrote

Schools off from July 19th, it’s not just the summer timetable is it?

No seems to be bigger network changes....least they changing it before new buses arrive.

Yes we'll order 15 B5H for the angel....few weeks later.....ooops PVR increased by 2 lmao

(11 Jun 2019, 6:17 pm)JP6004 wrote

Dan and Michael sitting in a tree.....

He'll be the first to moan when the news isn't updated again for two weeks... " alt="" title="">

(11 Jun 2019, 6:19 pm)JP6004 wrote

No seems to be bigger network changes....least they changing it before new buses arrive.

Yes we'll order 15 B5H for the angel....few weeks later.....ooops PVR increased by 2 lmao

Ha ha, yep remember that well

(11 Jun 2019, 6:20 pm)Dan wrote

He'll be the first to moan when the news isn't updated again for two weeks... " alt="" title="">

Yes he be asking if your hotel has wifi

(11 Jun 2019, 6:19 pm)JP6004 wrote

No seems to be bigger network changes....least they changing it before new buses arrive.

Yes we'll order 15 B5H for the angel....few weeks later.....ooops PVR increased by 2 lmao

They seem to do that a lot.... hopefully once these changes happen, they'll stick to them!

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(11 Jun 2019, 6:21 pm)JP6004 wrote

Yes he be asking if your hotel has wifi " alt="" title="">

It has actually but i'm staying off it because i'm away....

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(11 Jun 2019, 6:20 pm)Dan wrote

He'll be the first to moan when the news isn't updated again for two weeks... " alt="" title="">

Well get on updating Stagecoach and Arriva and you won't have to listen to me go on about it :p

Whats going to happen with the 5 section between North Shields and Jarrow as it is Nexus secured? 9?

(11 Jun 2019, 6:39 pm)JM03 wrote Whats going to happen with the 5 section between North Shields and Jarrow as it is Nexus secured? 9?

GCT - 319 between North Shields and Jarrow

(11 Jun 2019, 6:41 pm)Tom wrote

GCT - 319 between North Shields and Jarrow

Another change of route...

The 9 was fine and very popular in Shields, yet has been a disaster since GNE pulled the plug.

(11 Jun 2019, 6:48 pm)JM03 wrote

Another change of route...

The 9 was fine and very popular in Shields, yet has been a disaster since GNE pulled the plug.

It has always been Nexus-secured. It is up to them how it is tendered, and they wished for it to be a separate route, no longer providing any through links in Jarrow.

(11 Jun 2019, 6:50 pm)Dan wrote

It has always been Nexus-secured. It is up to them how it is tendered, and they wished for it to be a separate route, no longer providing any through links in Jarrow.

Yes, it has been secured by Nexus for years now but the 9 always had people going directly to Sunderland, Boldon etc but when they changed it to the 5, everyone just changed at Jarrow for the 9. I use this quite frequently and overtime i do, the 5 is always cleared of passengers with a good 95% of them heading for the 9 yet people don't stay on past Jarrow from Lukes Lane I've noticed with only one or two people staying on with a good 7/8 transferring for the 9 each time. Disaster for GNE in my opinion as during the day it is a very profitable section by the routes. Evenings i can understand with only ever a handful but daytime services to Sunderland pulled fro North Shields is a disaster.

(11 Jun 2019, 6:55 pm)JM03 wrote

Yes, it has been secured by Nexus for years now but the 9 always had people going directly to Sunderland, Boldon etc but when they changed it to the 5, everyone just changed at Jarrow for the 9. I use this quite frequently and overtime i do, the 5 is always cleared of passengers with a good 95% of them heading for the 9 yet people don't stay on past Jarrow from Lukes Lane I've noticed with only one or two people staying on with a good 7/8 transferring for the 9 each time. Disaster for GNE in my opinion as during the day it is a very profitable section by the routes. Evenings i can understand with only ever a handful but daytime services to Sunderland pulled fro North Shields is a disaster.

If it was a profitable part of the route, GNE would of took it off NEXUS hands, and run it as there own.

(11 Jun 2019, 6:58 pm)Michael wrote If it was a profitable part of the route, GNE would of took it off NEXUS hands, and run it as there own.

Fair point but its always been getting a canny load. Did see numbers drop with the 5 coming in with more people opting for the ferry and 20, It was last years changes which sent it a bit down

(11 Jun 2019, 6:24 pm)Michael wrote They seem to do that a lot.... hopefully once these changes happen, they'll stick to them!

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It has actually but i'm staying off it because i'm away....

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Well get on updating Stagecoach and Arriva and you won't have to listen to me go on about it :p

Not worth the effort been years since I travelled on arriva or stagecoach and I don't plan to in future

What could the variation on the 309 & 310 be? I know that GNE will want to move the evening times again as Arriva have sneakily moved the 308 to xx:12 & xx:42. Hopefully might see an evening frequency increase if the 310 serving Hadrian Park and the 57 stopping betwen Newcastle and Hadrian Park after 20:30 has improved passenger numbers.

And on another note, will the X31 move back to Hownsgill?

(12 Jun 2019, 5:02 am)L469 YVK wrote And on another note, will the X31 move back to Hownsgill?

Nothing official but rumour has it moving back (not all journeys)

Didnt they do that about 9 year ago,they withdrew the 9 and introduced the 319 then,the residents of Howdon Road made a petition so the 9 was re-introduced,now theyve done the same with the 5,only difference is that this 319 is going to North Shields whilst the past attempt at the 319 only went as far as Percy Main, there was also the 59 that did Wallsend to Jarrow,not sure of its route,that was running before i moved out of Newcastle,then when i moved back 6 months later it was gone

(12 Jun 2019, 2:27 pm)V514DFT wrote Didnt they do that about 9 year ago,they withdrew the 9 and introduced the 319 then,the residents of Howdon Road made a petition so the 9 was re-introduced,now theyve done the same with the 5,only difference is that this 319 is going to North Shields whilst the past attempt at the 319 only went as far as Percy Main, there was also the 59 that did Wallsend to Jarrow,not sure of its route,that was running before i moved out of Newcastle,then when i moved back 6 months later it was gone

Be interesting to see if the 5 stays at washington or transfers back to deptford.....

(12 Jun 2019, 2:42 pm)JP6004 wrote

Be interesting to see if the 5 stays at washington or transfers back to deptford.....

5 has never been Deptford, Riverside used to run it.

(12 Jun 2019, 2:27 pm)V514DFT wrote Didnt they do that about 9 year ago,they withdrew the 9 and introduced the 319 then,the residents of Howdon Road made a petition so the 9 was re-introduced,now theyve done the same with the 5,only difference is that this 319 is going to North Shields whilst the past attempt at the 319 only went as far as Percy Main, there was also the 59 that did Wallsend to Jarrow,not sure of its route,that was running before i moved out of Newcastle,then when i moved back 6 months later it was gone

I wonder if the dogged determination of GNE to tag the extension on to the 5/50 has anything to do with it?

Reliability perhaps?

If GNE were to operate the service as part of a stand-alone service or merge with one of the W services, it could have possibly ensured the service endured.

As it is, passengers are now forced to purchase multi-operator tickets and inevitably, their fares will only increase.