(06 Aug 2021, 3:47 pm)Michael wrote Most of these has been post but 5474 - 5480 are all now at Percy Main - leaves 4 more to be branded. (5470-5473)


5463 - 5469 - left to do

2 are likely to be branded up for the 51/52 to make up the numbers


Leaving rest of the euro 6 Streetlites as spares?

Where are all the versa's going? There are loads on the Q's however they are being replaced by streetlites

(06 Aug 2021, 3:58 pm)Keeiajs wrote Where are all the versa's going? There are loads on the Q's however they are being replaced by streetlites

Versa's from the Quaylink are going on the 2/2A, most of them are already on the route.

(06 Aug 2021, 4:04 pm)Michael wrote Versa's from the Quaylink are going on the 2/2A, most of them are already on the route.

Yes, I know. However I think there will be loads of spare streetlites after GNE finished 6/7. 25 cut in half, The spare buses which are on the Q1/Q2 are only temp so where do they go next. Will they just be spare?

(06 Aug 2021, 4:04 pm)Michael wrote Versa's from the Quaylink are going on the 2/2A, most of them are already on the route.

Only 5 on so far I believe

11 branded black cats Streetlite

2 of them haven't been seen since the 30th July

5 are branded Coaster with 2 being 2019 corp. If the other 2 are painted to coaster that gives 9 of them

Meaning 9 of them are free to go somewhere else

(06 Aug 2021, 2:29 pm)GNE6312 wrote 3962-64 now at Riverside 3962 has been on 10A/B all day 3964 has only been on the 10A/B since the afternoon and appears to have replaced 3963 which either got pulled off or broke down at Metrocentre on the 10B earlier. Presumably 3965 has joined its sisters.

Correct.  3962 - 3965 all transferred from Deptford to Riverside Yesterday.  This is to allow refurbishment of the Tyne Valley Ten vehicles.

(06 Aug 2021, 7:46 pm)BFK wrote Correct.  3962 - 3965 all transferred from Deptford to Riverside Yesterday.  This is to allow refurbishment of the Tyne Valley Ten vehicles.

And I take it the refurbishment will also include 6084-86 replacing 6045-47?

(06 Aug 2021, 7:46 pm)BFK wrote Correct.  3962 - 3965 all transferred from Deptford to Riverside Yesterday.  This is to allow refurbishment of the Tyne Valley Ten vehicles.

Refurbishment.  A new livery?

So the PVR for the X1 will be 13x vehicles (3x Peterlee / 10x Easington Lane & Dalton Park)

So taking into account other changes, this is what I predict for fleet movements.

Wright StreetDeck

• 6363 from Consett to Washington for X1/X1A
  
• 6376 from Consett to Washington as spare
  
• 6301-03 from Consett to Chester Le Street as spare - covers both the Angel and 25 (also got 1x of 6334/35)
  
• 6331-33 allocated to X5/X15 alongside 1x of the best out of 6304-07
  
• 3x out of 6304-07 & remain at Consett as spares - covers X5/X15, X45/X46 and 47/47A
  

ADL E400MMC

• 6336 remains at Consett as dedicated bike spare
  
• 6338-40 remain at Consett for X45/X46
  
• 6341-51 remain at Consett for X30/X31 & X70/X71/X72
  

Volvo B9TL

• 6043-48 from Riverside to Chester Le Street - refurbished for 25
  
• 6001, 6049 and 6050 replace 6043, 0644 and 6048 as spares
  
• 6084-86 replace 6045-47 on the Tyne Valley Ten
  
• 6099 from Percy Main/Washington to Riverside as spare
  

Thing I want to know is. Does the 91 in the morning from the depot require a decker as its always allocated at Coaster Decker.

Would 6100 be the replacement

(06 Aug 2021, 10:29 pm)Train8261 wrote Thing I want to know is. Does the 91 in the morning from the depot require a decker as its always allocated at Coaster Decker.

Would 6100 be the replacement

Was it not previously allocated an omnicity before 2018?

Any photos would be good

Edit. Only photos found on Flickr are of them starting at Market Street or the journey starting at the Team Vally

(06 Aug 2021, 10:01 pm)L469 YVK wrote So the PVR for the X1 will be 13x vehicles (3x Peterlee / 10x Easington Lane & Dalton Park)

So taking into account other changes, this is what I predict for fleet movements.

Wright StreetDeck

• 6363 from Consett to Washington for X1/X1A
  
• 6376 from Consett to Washington as spare
  
• 6301-03 from Consett to Chester Le Street as spare - covers both the Angel and 25 (also got 1x of 6334/35)
  
• 6331-33 allocated to X5/X15 alongside 1x of the best out of 6304-07
  
• 3x out of 6304-07 & remain at Consett as spares - covers X5/X15, X45/X46 and 47/47A
  

ADL E400MMC

• 6336 remains at Consett as dedicated bike spare
  
• 6338-40 remain at Consett for X45/X46
  
• 6341-51 remain at Consett for X30/X31 & X70/X71/X72
  

Volvo B9TL

• 6043-48 from Riverside to Chester Le Street - refurbished for 25
  
• 6001, 6049 and 6050 replace 6043, 0644 and 6048 as spares
  
• 6084-86 replace 6045-47 on the Tyne Valley Ten
  
• 6099 from Percy Main/Washington to Riverside as spare
  

In times where savings need to be made, why repaint 6331-6333 for X5/X15 and paint 3 out of 6304-07?. Doesn't make sense.

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(07 Aug 2021, 7:23 am)Stanleyone wrote In times where savings need to be made, why repaint 6331-6333 for X5/X15 and paint 3 out of 6304-07?. Doesn't make sense.

Obviously it would make sense to allocate 6338-40 on the X45/X46 as they're the newest vehicles alongside 6356-61. Don't see any use for them away from Consett unless other GAG Op-Cos need extra MMC's.

Whilst "partially" repainting 6331-33 into X5/X15 colours and repainting 3 out of 6304-07 into XLines spare colours would cost, the benefits would outweigh the cost longer term reducing lost mileage (breakdowns etc) and also putting the newest vehicles again to good use. Don't forget that 6331-33 will cost less to run than the older StreetDecks as they have stop-start.

Overall, it would mean (bar 1x) that the initial troublesome Castles Express batch of StreetDecks would see mainly use as spares.

(06 Aug 2021, 10:53 pm)L469 YVK wrote Was it not previously allocated an omnicity before 2018?

It was indeed

So do we know what's happening to the rest of the Black Cats StreetLite and Durham Diamond StreetLite.

Which ones are going to the 51/52

A little fleet prediction given the upcoming changes:

Streetlites
*5391-5394 to Chester-le-Street for the 34
*5410-5419 to Riverside for the 49/49A
*5440-5441 to Deptford as spares
*5442-5450 to Riverside for 51/52 branded along with 5451/52
*5453-5462 remain at Riverside for the 6/12/12A
*5463-5469 to Riverside for the 57
*5470-5478 to Percy Main branded for the Coaster with 5479/80 as spares
*8344-8346 to Deptford for the 5/9

Solos
*698-701 withdrawn

Citaros
*5275-5283 to Deptford
*5337/5481/4/6/7 withdrawn 

B9's
*6043-6049 to Consett for the 47/47A
*6084/5 refreshed for the 10/10A/10B
*6086/7 to Riverside as spares
*6099 to Deptford as spare

B5's
*6056-6063 to Consett for 16/16A
*6064 to Chester-le-Street as spare
*6065/66 to Chester-le-Street for X22
*6067-6070 to Consett as spares

Streetdecks
*6301/2/3 to Chester-le-Street as spares
*6376/77 to Washington as spares
*6363 to Washington for X1

(07 Aug 2021, 7:33 pm)peter wrote A little fleet prediction given the upcoming changes:

Streetlites
*5391-5394 to Chester-le-Street for the 34
*5410-5419 to Riverside for the 49/49A
*5440-5441 to Deptford as spares
*5442-5450 to Riverside for 51/52 branded along with 5451/52
*5453-5462 remain at Riverside for the 6/12/12A
*5463-5469 to Riverside for the 57
*5470-5478 to Percy Main branded for the Coaster with 5479/80 as spares
*8344-8346 to Deptford for the 5/9

Solos
*698-701 withdrawn

Citaros
*5275-5283 to Deptford
*5337/5481/4/6/7 withdrawn 

B9's
*6043-6049 to Consett for the 47/47A
*6084/5 refreshed for the 10/10A/10B
*6086/7 to Riverside as spares
*6099 to Deptford as spare

B5's
*6056-6063 to Consett for 16/16A
*6064 to Chester-le-Street as spare
*6065/66 to Chester-le-Street for X22
*6067-6070 to Consett as spares

Streetdecks
*6301/2/3 to Chester-le-Street as spares
*6376/77 to Washington as spares
*6363 to Washington for X1

I doubt 698 to 701 would be withdrawn

(07 Aug 2021, 8:45 pm)Train8261 wrote I doubt 698 to 701 would be withdrawn

I'd imagine that the Venture changes would release Solo SRs out to replace these non-standard vehicles.

True. Plus Percy Main are in need of solos. Unless they plan on putting longer buses on the 19

(07 Aug 2021, 8:45 pm)Train8261 wrote I doubt 698 to 701 would be withdrawn

Given that they are the oldest solo's (and only non SR's) in the fleet, the rest of the batch have already departed, and there is a significant reduction in the mini bus network, as mentioned above the Venture, 32, 71, H1/H2, 925, 938 etc, I think it's highly likely that these will be withdrawn.

(07 Aug 2021, 8:58 pm)omnicity4659 wrote I'd imagine that the Venture changes would release Solo SRs out to replace these non-standard vehicles.

Has there actually been a decrease in the number of minibuses needed. You have to remember there's now 8 going onto the 39/39A plus a spare I guess. Not sure the PVR of minis has dropped that much especially since Percy Main is short as it is since some went to Manchester earlier in the year and 697 as the vaccine bus. 

Deptford are short as there's only 7 graphite buses atm which isn't enough for the 39/39A.

(07 Aug 2021, 10:03 pm)Storx wrote Has there actually been a decrease in the number of minibuses needed. You have to remember there's now 8 going onto the 39/39A plus a spare I guess. Not sure the PVR of minis has dropped that much especially since Percy Main is short as it is since some went to Manchester earlier in the year and 697 as the vaccine bus. 

Deptford are short as there's only 7 graphite buses atm which isn't enough for the 39/39A.

The PVR for the 39/39A is 7.

(07 Aug 2021, 10:03 pm)Storx wrote Has there actually been a decrease in the number of minibuses needed. You have to remember there's now 8 going onto the 39/39A plus a spare I guess. Not sure the PVR of minis has dropped that much especially since Percy Main is short as it is since some went to Manchester earlier in the year and 697 as the vaccine bus. 

Deptford are short as there's only 7 graphite buses atm which isn't enough for the 39/39A.

925, 938 and 71 all Solo operated and although only 3 routes are being axed, the 4 (?) vehicles could be enough to replace the non-standard ones

Deptford aren't short, the PVR for the new 39 is 7, 672 should be the spare back from Washington.

Also the X6 is a Peterlee turn from September so there are more than enough solos for the 33/38

(07 Aug 2021, 10:03 pm)Storx wrote Has there actually been a decrease in the number of minibuses needed. You have to remember there's now 8 going onto the 39/39A plus a spare I guess. Not sure the PVR of minis has dropped that much especially since Percy Main is short as it is since some went to Manchester earlier in the year and 697 as the vaccine bus. 

Deptford are short as there's only 7 graphite buses atm which isn't enough for the 39/39A.

692 is the Vaccine Bus,not 697

(08 Aug 2021, 8:53 am)54APhotography wrote Deptford aren't short, the PVR for the new 39 is 7, 672 should be the spare back from Washington.

Also the X6 is a Peterlee turn from September so there are more than enough solos for the 33/38

Since the X6 will get over 20 minutes layover at Park lane, would this bus do the 38A between Park Lane to the Docks and back to Park Lane to do the X6 back to Peterlee?


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(08 Aug 2021, 9:33 am)cbma06 wrote Since the X6 will get over 20 minutes layover at Park lane, would this bus do the 38A between Park Lane to the Docks and back to Park Lane to do the X6 back to Peterlee?


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So will the 38A get the Peterlee Purples Buses?

Has anyone been on the B1, I have never seen it have more than 4 people on it.

(08 Aug 2021, 9:33 am)cbma06 wrote Since the X6 will get over 20 minutes layover at Park lane, would this bus do the 38A between Park Lane to the Docks and back to Park Lane to do the X6 back to Peterlee?


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It’s more than 20 mins, currently X6 has approx 40 minutes. I’ve just posted in the other thread.