Surprised, but we don't seem to have a Transpennine Express thread!

Anyhow, much like LNER, TPE are consulting on their proposed timetable changes. 

From a North East perspective, the proposals would include an hourly service to/from Chester-le-Street, as oppose to the infrequent timetable at present, but Northallerton seem to lose the half hourly service, replaced by a train every two hours.

More here: https://www.tpexpress.co.uk/about-us/our...nsultation

Also there will be no trains north of Newcastle and direct train to the airport from Newcastle, quite big cuts to allow LNER and the open operator more access on the Edinburgh to London parts

(28 Jun 2021, 4:57 pm)Adrian wrote Surprised, but we don't seem to have a Transpennine Express thread!

Anyhow, much like LNER, TPE are consulting on their proposed timetable changes. 

From a North East perspective, the proposals would include an hourly service to/from Chester-le-Street, as oppose to the infrequent timetable at present, but Northallerton seem to lose the half hourly service, replaced by a train every two hours.

More here: https://www.tpexpress.co.uk/about-us/our...nsultation

Northallerton gains XC every hour in lieu of TPE.

Just had notification of the following strike action with TPCX.

The strike action is set to take place on:
• Sunday 13 February (00:01 – 23:59)
• Sunday 20 February (00:01 – 23:59)
• Sunday 27 February (00:01 – 23:59)
• Sunday 06 March (00:01 – 23:59)

Hearing rumours that the TPX extension to Saltburn won't be happening fully, until December.
They're possibly going to run the first and last of the day from Saltburn from May.

(04 Feb 2022, 11:02 am)Andreos1 wrote Hearing rumours that the TPX extension to Saltburn won't be happening fully, until December.
They're possibly going to run the first and last of the day from Saltburn from May.

At the moment this is what's loaded into the timetable:

The 06:00 from Redcar will be extended to begin from Saltburn at 05:54. 

Looks to be a big uplift in the afternoon/evening timetable. The 19:07 Redcar to Manchester Victoria will extend to the Airport. The 16:35 from Manchester Airport to Redcar will extend to Saltburn with the 20:07 from Redcar to York extended to begin from Saltburn at 20:08 running about 15 minutes later as a result. The 17:38 from Manchester Airport to York will now extend to Redcar with a new 21:07 from Redcar to York. The 22:07 from Redcar to York will now extend through to Manchester Victoria. Then there will be a new 19:38 Manchester Airport to Saltburn with an 23:10 Saltburn to York.

(04 Feb 2022, 5:32 pm)peter wrote At the moment this is what's loaded into the timetable:

The 06:00 from Redcar will be extended to begin from Saltburn at 05:54. 

Looks to be a big uplift in the afternoon/evening timetable. The 19:07 Redcar to Manchester Victoria will extend to the Airport. The 16:35 from Manchester Airport to Redcar will extend to Saltburn with the 20:07 from Redcar to York extended to begin from Saltburn at 20:08 running about 15 minutes later as a result. The 17:38 from Manchester Airport to York will now extend to Redcar with a new 21:07 from Redcar to York. The 22:07 from Redcar to York will now extend through to Manchester Victoria. Then there will be a new 19:38 Manchester Airport to Saltburn with an 23:10 Saltburn to York.

Ah interesting.
Hopefully more than just the one run then.

185114 got as far a Saltburn today. Presumably ahead of the May changes.

According to RTT, it started as 5Z82 from Middlesbrough and ran back to York as 5Z83.

(17 Feb 2022, 1:51 pm)Andreos1 wrote 185114 got as far a Saltburn today. Presumably ahead of the May changes.

According to RTT, it started as 5Z82 from Middlesbrough and ran back to York as 5Z83.

And again today.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service...allox_id=1
185145 this time.

5Z80 and 5Z81

What a shambles today. Nothing through Huddersfield until mid morning due to an ill signaller which more or less meant nothing from the North East to the North West until around lunchtime. Surely Network Rail have a backup plan. Wonder if this would have happened in London

Looking at Real Time Trains from Manchester Victoria to Leeds, it doesnt paint a very good picture at all, and when they want us to get back onto the trains. Nothing from Manchester to Newcastle from 1145 until 1645. There were more than this but were already cancelled due to driver shortages which were taken out of the journey planner.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/...59?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=TP

(19 Mar 2022, 5:59 pm)citaro5284 wrote What a shambles today.  Nothing through Huddersfield until mid morning due to an ill signaller which more or less meant nothing from the North East to the North West until around lunchtime.  Surely Network Rail have a backup plan.  Wonder if this would have happened in London

Looking at Real Time Trains from Manchester Victoria to Leeds, it doesnt paint a very good picture at all, and when they want us to get back onto the trains.  Nothing from Manchester to Newcastle from 1145 until 1645.  There were more than this but were already cancelled due to driver shortages which were taken out of the journey planner.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/...59?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=TP

Nobody anywhere seems to have a backup plan at the moment. It's supposed to be critical infrastructure, so there should never be a lack of staff to operate it. Wonder if this would ever happen at a power station? 

Tory Party conference is in Blackpool this weekend, so at least it'll have disrupted some of those who have the power to influence change.

(19 Mar 2022, 5:59 pm)citaro5284 wrote What a shambles today.  Nothing through Huddersfield until mid morning due to an ill signaller which more or less meant nothing from the North East to the North West until around lunchtime.  Surely Network Rail have a backup plan.  Wonder if this would have happened in London

Looking at Real Time Trains from Manchester Victoria to Leeds, it doesnt paint a very good picture at all, and when they want us to get back onto the trains.  Nothing from Manchester to Newcastle from 1145 until 1645.  There were more than this but were already cancelled due to driver shortages which were taken out of the journey planner.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/...59?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=TP

If you didn't mention Huddersfield and signaller, I'd have thought you were on about the X1 there!
Or, having seen Adrian's post elsewhere - the 74.

(19 Mar 2022, 7:23 pm)Andreos1 wrote If you didn't mention Huddersfield and signaller, I'd have thought you were on about the X1 there!
Or, having seen Adrian's post elsewhere - the 74.

There’s me thinking this was the TPE thread.

Does your eye start to twitch if you don’t mention GNE every few hours?


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(19 Mar 2022, 7:44 pm)Dan wrote There’s me thinking this was the TPE thread.

Does your eye start to twitch if you don’t mention GNE every few hours?


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Obsessed Daniel. Just can't get enough of them!

But seriously, I just find the irony delicious.

(19 Mar 2022, 8:56 pm)Andreos1 wrote Obsessed Daniel. Just can't get enough of them!

But seriously, I just find the irony delicious.

We can all tell!

Chomping on delicious irony as you rock back and forth on a chair in a dark room… Always here for you if you need help.

Meanwhile, we’ll get back onto discussing TPE and we’ll realise how this thread has nothing to do with Go North East regardless of who posts in it, given that we’re all here as enthusiasts…?


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(20 Mar 2022, 6:50 am)Dan wrote We can all tell!

Chomping on delicious irony as you rock back and forth on a chair in a dark room… Always here for you if you need help.

Meanwhile, we’ll get back onto discussing TPE and we’ll realise how this thread has nothing to do with Go North East regardless of who posts in it, given that we’re all here as enthusiasts…?


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So nobody is allowed to mention an operator (of whatever variety whether it be bus, train, plane, helicopter, taxi or whatever else), beyond the appropriate thread?

Not a grass, but Omnicity465910 mentioned the Metro in the bus disruptions thread. Does that count?

Our North Korea correspondent could have a whale of a time over all of this!

On a more serious note, you've been told by the authorities to stop peeking through my window.
If I rock back and forth, chomping on delicious irony, with my twitchy eye in the dark - then that's my business. Not yours, or anyone else who wants to peek through the window.

It might be entertaining. It might showcase my extraordinary lifestyle and skills, but that's for my own space. Not here or anywhere else.

Just to keep it relevant, I went on a TPX last week for a point to point journey. No water in the front three carriages of the journey at all. I was told that they would refill the tanks at a station, that I'm pretty sure doesn't have those capabilities at all.

(20 Mar 2022, 10:15 am)Andreos1 wrote So nobody is allowed to mention an operator (of whatever variety whether it be bus, train, plane, helicopter, taxi or whatever else), beyond the appropriate thread?

Not a grass, but Omnicity465910 mentioned the Metro in the bus disruptions thread. Does that count?

Our North Korea correspondent could have a whale of a time over all of this!

On a more serious note, you've been told by the authorities to stop peeking through my window.
If I rock back and forth, chomping on delicious irony, with my twitchy eye in the dark - then that's my business. Not yours, or anyone else who wants to peek through the window.

It might be entertaining. It might showcase my extraordinary lifestyle and skills, but that's for my own space. Not here or anywhere else.

Just to keep it relevant, I went on a TPX last week for a point to point journey. No water in the front three carriages of the journey at all. I was told that they would refill the tanks at a station, that I'm pretty sure doesn't have those capabilities at all.

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I've just booked a trip with TPE for my sins - I'm visiting friends in Manchester (stalybridge) next month and TPE are my only option.

I've spread my bets and am using LNER to get to York and then at least there's options from there to get me onwards to Staly. I'm going early Saturday morning too to avoid the rushes.

Returning a Thu (logic - avoid friday weekend travellers) via Huddersfield and keeping all fingers and toes crossed I'll be ok as Huddersfield station is a dismal place to be stuck

(23 Mar 2022, 2:55 pm)Ambassador wrote I've just booked a trip with TPE for my sins - I'm visiting friends in Manchester (stalybridge) next month and TPE are my only option.

I've spread my bets and am using LNER to get to York and then at least there's options from there to get me onwards to Staly. I'm going early Saturday morning too to avoid the rushes.

Returning a Thu (logic - avoid friday weekend travellers) via Huddersfield and keeping all fingers and toes crossed I'll be ok as Huddersfield station is a dismal place to be stuck

I will keep all my fingers and toes crossed for you as well....

(23 Mar 2022, 2:55 pm)Ambassador wrote I've just booked a trip with TPE for my sins - I'm visiting friends in Manchester (stalybridge) next month and TPE are my only option.

I've spread my bets and am using LNER to get to York and then at least there's options from there to get me onwards to Staly. I'm going early Saturday morning too to avoid the rushes.

Returning a Thu (logic - avoid friday weekend travellers) via Huddersfield and keeping all fingers and toes crossed I'll be ok as Huddersfield station is a dismal place to be stuck

If you do get stuck, focus on the positives.
There's the delay repay and you've got the decent pubs at both Stalybridge AND Huddersfield.

802207 is on its side at Heston depot, passed it last night on the metro. Got the front coach derailed and is half over

(23 Mar 2022, 4:48 pm)Andreos1 wrote If you do get stuck, focus on the positives.
There's the delay repay and you've got the decent pubs at both Stalybridge AND Huddersfield.

They've changed my train home and given me a 9 minute connection in Huddersfield.....this can't end well!

(28 Mar 2022, 10:47 am)Ambassador wrote They've changed my train home and given me a 9 minute connection in Huddersfield.....this can't end well!

Slow walk across the station to the next platform (put on a limp incase they check CCTV, look frustrated and angry as your connection pulls away) and spend that inevitable delay repay in the Head of Steam!

(28 Mar 2022, 10:47 am)Ambassador wrote They've changed my train home and given me a 9 minute connection in Huddersfield.....this can't end well!

The minimum connection time is 5 minutes at Huddersfield, so if you miss your connection (because your incoming train is 4 or more minutes late) then you'll be able to use the next one (by approaching station staff) and also claim compensation.

(28 Mar 2022, 10:47 am)Ambassador wrote They've changed my train home and given me a 9 minute connection in Huddersfield.....this can't end well!

Looking at arrivals and departures for Huddersfield, most TransPennine Express services heading North use platform 8, some use platform 4(A/B) such as Huddersfield terminating trips but that's just a case of walking past the waiting room and toilets to reach 8, no stairs involved or owt.

Don't think there's many (if any) opportunities for trains to overtake one another beyond Stalybridge so providing you leave there on time, you should likely be fine.

One thing I will say, trains are so unpredictable, one day everything goes relatively straightforward, other days it's absolute chaos. TPE cancelled my train North of York on Saturday morning due to "a slower train than usual being allocated" (a 185) although I was delighted as I was too ill to undertake the journey on the day so was able to get a full refund rather than mess about selecting a new date to travel and being charged a £10 admin fee.

(28 Mar 2022, 1:34 pm)omnicity4659 wrote The minimum connection time is 5 minutes at Huddersfield, so if you miss your connection (because your incoming train is 4 or more minutes late) then you'll be able to use the next one (by approaching station staff) and also claim compensation.

Ah that's useful to know thanks. 

I've booked the Staly to Huddersfield non stopper (and a chance to ride a 185) which should depart 13.50 and arrive 14.08 to make my 14.17 up to Newcastle.

Last time I travelled through Staly everything was closed and I ended up in a glass waiting room surrounded by weird historical vases

I travelled with TPE on Monday and Tuesday. It's not a nice feeling being booked on trains when you know the operation is a mess at the minute, but fortunately the two trains I was booked for ran as planned. I was on the 16.45 out of Manchester Victoria, which was quite busy due to the previous train being cancelled. Even the Redcar Central 185 running half an hour ahead of us didn't do much in terms of spreading out passenger numbers and we had passengers standing in 1st class between Huddersfield and Leeds.

It looks like the last Liverpool to Newcastle journey was cancelled on Monday, but unsure whether this was a light run back to York or not.

I am forever cursed with TPE, .my connecting staly to Huddersfield has been cancelled so It’s either leave stay an hour early or ask the nice people at TPE to let me board at Manchester

Update the man at TPE…he say no.

So I’ve bought at £15 first class single from Vic to Huddersfield. I’ll claim delay repay on the unused staly to Huddersfield and debate claiming the two hour delay I’d have had if I’d have followed TPE advice.

I could be quids in!

(27 Apr 2022, 7:24 pm)Ambassador wrote I am forever cursed with TPE, .my connecting staly to Huddersfield has been cancelled so It’s either leave stay an hour early or ask the nice people at TPE to let me board at Manchester

Most people who use TPE on a regular basis share that sentiment, myself included