(18 Jan 2014, 11:27 am)RCN 699 wrote Obviously the hint of sarcasm in my comment was not detected. Seriously Go-NorthEast did do a survey into the 61 coming off the 'Grangetown' route and it was not popular so they forgot about the idea.

The GNE survey was a bit more than coming off the 'Grangetown' route, there plan would have pretty much been the 61 replacing the 38 around Leechmere and Hollycarrside iirc

HEBBURN


Withdraw 27X

extend 5 from Jarrow to the clock, then past Longship, along Victoria Road to Bill Quay and Pelaw terminating at Heworth Metro.

This allow Victoria Rd to keep its bus service to Heworth, giving very frequent connections to Newcastle and Gateshead, and giving residents a direct bus to Jarrow.

(would still terminate at Jarrow on Evening/Sunday).

This extension would only need 1 extra bus (effectively using the bus that was on 27X). Driver breaks could be taken in the Nexus rest room, with toilet facilities, and be safer than sitting in a van in Jarrow.

(18 Jan 2014, 10:19 pm)minibus1474 wrote HEBBURN


Withdraw 27X

extend 5 from Jarrow to the clock, then past Longship, along Victoria Road to Bill Quay and Pelaw terminating at Heworth Metro.

This allow Victoria Rd to keep its bus service to Heworth, giving very frequent connections to Newcastle and Gateshead, and giving residents a direct bus to Jarrow.

(would still terminate at Jarrow on Evening/Sunday).

This extension would only need 1 extra bus (effectively using the bus that was on 27X). Driver breaks could be taken in the Nexus rest room, with toilet facilities, and be safer than sitting in a van in Jarrow.

Oh this just made my evening!

(18 Jan 2014, 10:28 pm)Dan wrote Oh this just made my evening!

In what way has your evening been made

A 'wtf way' or a 'thats a good idea way'

(18 Jan 2014, 10:19 pm)minibus1474 wrote This extension would only need 1 extra bus (effectively using the bus that was on 27X). Driver breaks could be taken in the Nexus rest room, with toilet facilities, and be safer than sitting in a van in Jarrow.

If passengers are going to have to change at Heworth for a 27 in to Gateshead and Newcastle anyway, why not just scrap the 27X entirely and people can just use the 515, or use the 88/88A and change to a 27? Your suggestion has also removed the link between Hebburn Quay and Newcastle - one of the main points behind the existence of the 27X.

Think they should renumber 88A to 89 and the 5 to 87 think that's a good idea and sunderland 2A 2C what stupid numbers think they should renumber that service 2A to 12 and 2C to 12A

(19 Jan 2014, 11:10 pm)speedwheels22 wrote Think they should renumber 88A to 89 and the 5 to 87 think that's a good idea and sunderland 2A 2C what stupid numbers think they should renumber that service 2A to 12 and 2C to 12A

Why...whats wrong with 2A/C, 5 and 88A

(19 Jan 2014, 11:10 pm)speedwheels22 wrote Think they should renumber 88A to 89 and the 5 to 87 think that's a good idea and sunderland 2A 2C what stupid numbers think they should renumber that service 2A to 12 and 2C to 12A

A = Anti Clockwise
C = Clockwise

Cannot get much straight forward than that.

(20 Jan 2014, 7:49 am)citaro5284 wrote A = Anti Clockwise
C = Clockwise

Cannot get much straight forward than that.

However that's no longer really relevant is it? (As per discussion in main GNE thread) As I understand they are just separate services now aren't they? Also these numbers/letter A and C services aren't used any more in GNE, expect Silver Arrows. However I agree that renumbering is just a waste of time, maybe if there was changes to the services maybe but no point in renumbering for the sake of it.

(20 Jan 2014, 4:24 pm)CatsFast101 wrote However that's no longer really relevant is it? (As per discussion in main GNE thread) As I understand they are just separate services now aren't they? Also these numbers/letter A and C services aren't used any more in GNE, expect Silver Arrows. However I agree that renumbering is just a waste of time, maybe if there was changes to the services maybe but no point in renumbering for the sake of it.

Yes, that's right. The 2A operates via Biddick and the 2C operates via Shiney Row.

(20 Jan 2014, 4:24 pm)CatsFast101 wrote However that's no longer really relevant is it? (As per discussion in main GNE thread) As I understand they are just separate services now aren't they? Also these numbers/letter A and C services aren't used any more in GNE, expect Silver Arrows. However I agree that renumbering is just a waste of time, maybe if there was changes to the services maybe but no point in renumbering for the sake of it.

Not used anymore hmm 20a 35a these exist

(20 Jan 2014, 11:49 pm)Acky81 wrote Not used anymore hmm 20a 35a these exist

It was clear from the post I meant A/C lettering together. If you want to funny about you could argue 35A/35C however these don't represent the initial reason behind why use 2A/2C. As pointed out above it was supposed to be for anti clockwise and clockwise loop however silver arrows don't do a loop anymore and GNE have bother other services lettered like this expect the Laser Services which use the 'C' as way of identify the evening route to South Hetton. 36A/36C used to be part of this, however even these the 36 service don't use this lettering any more.

(21 Jan 2014, 8:42 am)CatsFast101 wrote It was clear from the post I meant A/C lettering together. If you want to funny about you could argue 35A/35C however these don't represent the initial reason behind why use 2A/2C. As pointed out above it was supposed to be for anti clockwise and clockwise loop however silver arrows don't do a loop anymore and GNE have bother other services lettered like this expect the Laser Services which use the 'C' as way of identify the evening route to South Hetton. 36A/36C used to be part of this, however even these the 36 service don't use this lettering any more.

The ''Wallsend Links'' services at the time were 40C/41C, and I always thought this was because they served Cobalt Business Park, because the 40C went anti-clockwise, and the 41C clockwise.

(21 Jan 2014, 8:42 am)CatsFast101 wrote It was clear from the post I meant A/C lettering together. If you want to funny about you could argue 35A/35C however these don't represent the initial reason behind why use 2A/2C. As pointed out above it was supposed to be for anti clockwise and clockwise loop however silver arrows don't do a loop anymore and GNE have bother other services lettered like this expect the Laser Services which use the 'C' as way of identify the evening route to South Hetton. 36A/36C used to be part of this, however even these the 36 service don't use this lettering any more.

Yes does do a Loop from Fatfield heading towards The Galleries - 2C for example - via Harraton and Lambton to The Galleries, Then turns into a 2A and goes via Biddick and Fallowfield Way back to Fatfield, So therefore they a Clockwise/Anti Clockwise Loop of Washington, also as Mentioned Previously the 2A goes via Barnwell to Penshaw whereas the 2C goes via Shiney Row. As for the Lasers, that would be because the 35/35B finish at Low Moorsley, The 35A finishes at Rainton Bridge and the 35C finishes in South Hetton, Also the 35/35B and 35C go via Royal Hospital whereas the 35A goes straight through to Silksworth via Barnes Park, Not really hard to Understand why there Numbered A/B and C is it to be honest.

(21 Jan 2014, 4:10 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Yes does do a Loop from Fatfield heading towards The Galleries - 2C for example - via Harraton and Lambton to The Galleries, Then turns into a 2A and goes via Biddick and Fallowfield Way back to Fatfield, So therefore they a Clockwise/Anti Clockwise Loop of Washington, also as Mentioned Previously the 2A goes via Barnwell to Penshaw whereas the 2C goes via Shiney Row. As for the Lasers, that would be because the 35/35B finish at Low Moorsley, The 35A finishes at Rainton Bridge and the 35C finishes in South Hetton, Also the 35/35B and 35C go via Royal Hospital whereas the 35A goes straight through to Silksworth via Barnes Park, Not really hard to Understand why there Numbered A/B and C is it to be honest.

Am I right in saying the Silver Arrows interwork, if it is a 2A going out, does it come back as a 2C and vice versa

Yes Adam interworking allows people to technically to do a clockwise and anticlockwise loop, but is through fares available? Unkess there is through fares you would need two Washington town singles. When it was launched the timetable was like a circular service (little bit like lets say 61).

2A Sunderland-Sunderland via Grindon, Barnwell, Fatfield, Biddick, Washington, Lambton, Harraton, Shiney Row, Grindon
2C Sunderland-Sunderland via Grindon, Shiney Row, Harraton, Lambton, Washington, Biddick, Fatfield, Barnwell, Grindon
But now you don't get a 2A through Shiney Row likewise or a 2C through Barnwell.

(21 Jan 2014, 5:58 pm)CatsFast101 wrote Yes Adam interworking allows people to technically to do a clockwise and anticlockwise loop, but is through fares available? Unkess there is through fares you would need two Washington town singles. When it was launched the timetable was like a circular service (little bit like lets say 61).

2A Sunderland-Sunderland via Grindon, Barnwell, Fatfield, Biddick, Washington, Lambton, Harraton, Shiney Row, Grindon
2C Sunderland-Sunderland via Grindon, Shiney Row, Harraton, Lambton, Washington, Biddick, Fatfield, Barnwell, Grindon
But now you don't get a 2A through Shiney Row likewise or a 2C through Barnwell.

There is No Reason to change the 2A/2C Route to the above as the Route works like clockwork, it's a simple interworking 2C to 2A - 2A to 2C, either way your going have a 2A each way through Barnwell and a 2C through Shiney Row.

If I have been to Sunderland and opted to get on the 2A rather than 2C home due to it being cold or Whatever, I have stopped on at The Galleries and Continued my Journey to Lambton, Nothing the Driver can do if I got on with a Day Ticket, Otherwise I would think it's 2 Separate Journeys and No through Fares Available.

(21 Jan 2014, 6:15 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote There is No Reason to change the 2A/2C Route to the above as the Route works like clockwork, it's a simple interworking 2C to 2A - 2A to 2C, either way your going have a 2A each way through Barnwell and a 2C through Shiney Row.

If I have been to Sunderland and opted to get on the 2A rather than 2C home due to it being cold or Whatever, I have stopped on at The Galleries and Continued my Journey to Lambton, Nothing the Driver can do if I got on with a Day Ticket, Otherwise I would think it's 2 Separate Journeys and No through Fares Available.

If you read through the post I've never suggested changing the route number I've just discussed as that the original plan of anti clockwise/clockwise doesn't really exist more as the 2A/2C are very much separate services now as far as I am aware.
And the route I posted above are the original 2A/2C route!

GNE service numbers are very confusing , and always changing . Even their timetables are a rambling farce !

(22 Jan 2014, 12:26 am)pringlj wrote GNE service numbers are very confusing , and always changing . Even their timetables are a rambling farce !

What is confusing about GNE service numbers

I hope this 29 is a good service shame about the 26 been changed so many times,so when will the deckers be in service for 309,310

(22 Jan 2014, 12:53 am)speedwheels22 wrote I hope this 29 is a good service shame about the 26 been changed so many times,so when will the deckers be in service for 309,310

Answer: we don't know, I don't know if its you but I seem to remember somebody asking that question a lot and was just been ignored, I hope this will stop people from asking and it satisfies you.

(22 Jan 2014, 4:00 pm)northtynelinks2 wrote Answer: we don't know, I don't know if its you but I seem to remember somebody asking that question a lot and was just been ignored, I hope this will stop people from asking and it satisfies you.

Haha it was me, i just gave up

(22 Jan 2014, 4:14 pm)Michael wrote Haha it was me, i just gave up

Lol, I didn't think it was fair that people were just ignoring comments. Still, why are they fussed about the rear dest? Its not like any passengers will see it.

(22 Jan 2014, 4:16 pm)northtynelinks2 wrote Lol, I didn't think it was fair that people were just ignoring comments. Still, why are they fussed about the rear dest? Its not like any passengers will see it.

I stopped asking because no one knew, kinda thinking we might have to wait 2 weeks

(21 Jan 2014, 8:42 am)CatsFast101 wrote It was clear from the post I meant A/C lettering together. If you want to funny about you could argue 35A/35C however these don't represent the initial reason behind why use 2A/2C. As pointed out above it was supposed to be for anti clockwise and clockwise loop however silver arrows don't do a loop anymore and GNE have bother other services lettered like this expect the Laser Services which use the 'C' as way of identify the evening route to South Hetton. 36A/36C used to be part of this, however even these the 36 service don't use this lettering any more.

I wasn't been funny I have just misunderstood your post

M3A - Heworth Interchange - Follingsby Park - Lingey Lane-St Georges Court - Concord Bus station Bus Station - Albany - Washington Bus Station - Biddick - Washington Arts Centre - Fatfield Fallowfield Way - Fatfield - Harraton - Rickleton - Washington Hospital - Barley Mow - Chester-le-Street South Burns

- Replacing Service 994

- 06:15 from Heworth Operates as Normal also Serving Follingsby Park - Extra Journey from Heworth to Chester le Street at 06:45 would also be added

- 2 Journey's from Chester le Street on a Morning would also be added at the Same Times as the Heworth Departures

- Also 2 Evening Journey's would be added also at Heworth and Chester le Street Departing at 17:15 and 17:45 at both sides of the Route

- 11:15 994 From Washington Galleries to Heworth would be Cancelled due Zero Passengers using it whatsoever

All short Journey's minus the 06:40 994 from Heworth to Follingsby would be Operated as Normal, again renumbered as M3A

I like the idea of extending the links from Follingsby Park to Washington, but I'm not sure Go North East will be able to get rid of A-Line's service. Maybe it could be a possible 994 suggestion rather than a 'Washington Street Shuttle' suggestion?

(23 Jan 2014, 7:13 pm)BJ10VUS wrote I like the idea of extending the links from Follingsby Park to Washington, but I'm not sure Go North East will be able to get rid of A-Line's service. Maybe it could be a possible 994 suggestion rather than a 'Washington Street Shuttle' suggestion?

The M3A is Nexus Operated using one of the SR's, Go North East could operate the 2 Morning/Evening Journey's from Heworth/Chester le Street that I suggested, then Aline could Operate the Short Workings during the Day between Heworth and Follingsby Park.

Here is an idea, stop constantly messing with services, end of.