Anyone got a timetable for the 61

(03 Jul 2022, 5:31 pm)Unber43 wrote Anyone got a timetable for the 61

Attached

(03 Jul 2022, 5:41 pm)Thomas12 wrote Attached

Can you grab the 9 & 60 pls or tell me where to get them from, I want to see if they interwork?

(03 Jul 2022, 6:02 pm)Unber43 wrote Can you grab the 9 & 60 pls or tell me where to get them from, I want to see if they interwork?

Yeah no problem, you can see them on traveline.info but I've attached them anyway.

So it seems the 60 & 20 will interwork with the 20 using Stand E & L in ParkLane

As it will be A690-Stand E-Burdon Road(wintergardens)-Stand L-A690

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61 will standalone

So it seems it will be DayTimes

24>5>9>9>5>24
24>26>26>24
24>5>9>9>5>24
24>26>26>24

On evenings

24>26>26>24 & 9>5>5>9

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I can't find anything for the 29. So I can't see if the 29.

I believe all E400's are being used at Consett - With the Streetdecks probs going onto the 47 or X21.

So X20 is moving to Stand L. However it doesn't seem like there will be any peak X20 Service going to/from Doxford Park only.

I wonder why GNE aren't thinking about adding an X39, Sunderland - Doxford Park - Sunderland (peak times only)

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So as it Stands, the Stand N in Park Lane will only be used about 5 times a day

(03 Jul 2022, 6:44 pm)Unber43 wrote

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I can't find anything for the 29. So I can't see if the 29.

I believe all E400's are being used at Consett - With the Streetdecks probs going onto the 47 or X21.

E400MMCs will be on the 47 as there wouldn't be enough for the X70/X71/X72 (PVR 7x) with 8x out of the 14x already being used on the X30/X31/X45. So that's the 6x sorted and it's likely that 6336-37 would need to go back to Consett too so that adequate 'low height' Euro 6 decker cover can be provided for applicable X30/X31/X45 boards due to the low bridge in Dunston served on the X30/X31.

It will work out something like the following and would keep repaint costs to a minimum with the exception of 6x B9TLs and 6x E400MMC. Although the B5TLs are questionable, GNE will just keep these on the X21 for at least another 2 years if not slightly longer.

E400MMC:
- 6336-37 - Consett Spare
- 6338-43 - 47
- 6344-51 - X30/X31/X45
- 6352-55 - X10

StreetDeck:
- 6331-32 - Washington Spare
- 6333 - Consett Spare
- 6356-62 - X70/X71/X72
- 6363 - X1 (making up PVR of 14x with 6364-76)

B5TL:
- 6308-14 - X21
- 6334 - X21
- 6335 - Riverside Spare

B9TL: 
- 6043-48 - Riverside  (1x extra for 58 and 5x spare)

While trying to work out the 24/20/5/9/60/61+ Peterlee interworking pattern, 

61 (stand alone) Every 62 Mins

DayTimes
24>5>9>9>5>24
24>26>26>24
24>5>9>9>5>24
24>26>26>24

Total PVR 18 (Monday-Saturday Day Times)

Evening 
24>26>26>24
9>5>5>9 

Monday-Sunday Evenings
20>60>60>20 PVR 7/8

Note - 60 looks to be hourly on a Sunday evening, something which wasn't in the Consultation

Also there is a daily 60, twice Daily on a Saturday which runs from Sunderland-New Seaham, could that not just be named the 60A and ran through Station Road-Princess Road upto Parkside? There is also a 4:45 from Parkside

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I've also been trying to workout Peterlee Services

and it seems the X6 will interwork with the 206.

However it could be X6-206-209-201-210-201-X6 with the 62A & 61 Interworking aswell.

These would both come under the maximum driving time

Also the 61 interworks on a Sunday, but I do not know which service it interworks with.

Why is the 41 going back to Howdon can I ask. I thought they withdrawn it in that area due to low passenger numbers??????????

QA & QB.

They both will operate to Wallsend, QB all day, the QA, Mornings & evenings

(03 Jul 2022, 9:03 pm)Unber43 wrote Also the 61 interworks on a Sunday, but I do not know which service it interworks with.

Is it the 35A?

Would be the only explanation I can think of as to why they’ve split the route at Sunderland, on journeys towards Low Moorsley. Something that should be part of a consultation really, as during Sunday daytimes they’re effectively separate services, let’s hope no one from North Sunderland is needing a Sunday visit to the Hospital.Perhaps even more confusing than a total split, with it being in one direction only. So you can get from the hospital to Castletown without changing buses but not from Castletown to the hospital.

(04 Jul 2022, 1:21 am)Drifter60 wrote Is it the 35A?

Would be the only explanation I can think of as to why they’ve split the route at Sunderland, on journeys towards Low Moorsley. Something that should be part of a consultation really, as during Sunday daytimes they’re effectively separate services, let’s hope no one from North Sunderland is needing a Sunday visit to the Hospital.Perhaps even more confusing than a total split, with it being in one direction only. So you can get from the hospital to Castletown without changing buses but not from Castletown to the hospital.

Well there is no mention of the 61A which I could find.

Timetables will probs start appearing today and into Tomorrow

Why is the 39A every 90 mins (evenings)

(03 Jul 2022, 10:39 pm)Unber43 wrote QA & QB.

They both will operate to Wallsend, QB all day, the QA, Mornings & evenings

Link

And so the Q3 is being withdrawn

(04 Jul 2022, 8:30 am)Aaron21 wrote Link

And so the Q3 is being withdrawn

These are the condensed versions

(04 Jul 2022, 8:46 am)Unber43 wrote These are the condensed versions

If that's the actual timetable. That's just stupid. Only the QB will go to Wallsend and the QA won't

(04 Jul 2022, 9:40 am)Aaron21 wrote If that's the actual timetable. That's just stupid. Only the QB will go to Wallsend and the QA won't

How is it stupid exactly? A half hourly service is provided to/from Wallsend during the day. I don't think it really matters for most passengers whether is it the QA or QB providing this service.

(04 Jul 2022, 9:50 am)Thomas12 wrote How is it stupid exactly? A half hourly service is provided to/from Wallsend during the day. I don't think it really matters for most passengers whether is it the QA or QB providing this service.

Why get rid of the Q3 and opt for a bloody letter system 

Also How's anyone gonna tell the difference from the QA&QB at heading towards Great Park

(04 Jul 2022, 12:12 pm)Aaron21 wrote Why get rid of the Q3 and opt for a bloody letter system 

Also How's anyone gonna tell the difference from the QA&QB at heading towards Great Park

Tbf it does seem to be quite confusing. Especially with thier not being a map

(04 Jul 2022, 12:14 pm)Unber43 wrote Tbf it does seem to be quite confusing. Especially with thier not being a map

The only way your going to tell if the QA or QB goes a different way round Great Park. Is

A, u pick up a timetable from the bus

B, you stay on until the bus turns right instead of left at Great Park

C, the timetable at the bus stops shows a map of which way it goes round the Great park

It looks like GNE have won back the 25, from Langley Park through to Newcastle

(04 Jul 2022, 3:29 pm)Unber43 wrote It looks like GNE have won back the 25, from Langley Park through to Newcastle

Don’t think that’s accurate as it looks like the same timetable as now.

(04 Jul 2022, 3:29 pm)Unber43 wrote It looks like GNE have won back the 25, from Langley Park through to Newcastle

'won back' is an interesting turn of phrase.
Especially when they were more than happy to give it up on a commercial basis.

(04 Jul 2022, 4:20 pm)Andreos1 wrote 'won back' is an interesting turn of phrase.
Especially when they were more than happy to give it up on a commercial basis.

And especially when it might not be true.


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I did say "looks like" but if GNE don't Win it, it wil be supported for the rest of its life

Nexus put this out today on there news section

Funding an increase in the evening frequency of Go North East service 1 between Newcastle and Whitley Bay to two buses an hour.
•    Extending Go North East service 35 to give the Cotswold Estate in Boldon, South Tyneside a new bus service linked to local shops and on to Sunderland City centre.
•    Extending service 41, introduced by nexus in March, to create direct links between northern parts of Wallsend through to Howdon.
•    Funding the continued operation of service 69 in Gateshead to maintain direct links to Queen Elizabeth Hospital from Winlaton, Blaydon and Whickham.
•    Boosting the frequency of the new 82 route Nexus already plans to introduce in Washington.
•    Funding an extension of Go North East’s service Q3 from St Peters Basin in Newcastle to Wallsend, as part of a new route to be called the ‘QA/QB’.
•    Funding the expansion of the service 39 in Sunderland to introduce a new service ‘39B’, ensuring Tunstall Bank Estate continues to benefit from access to the bus network.

Nexus also expects to support the following new or re-routed services, working with Durham County Council to maintain links from the county through south Gateshead to Newcastle:


•    An hourly service 25 between Newcastle, Gateshead, Eighton Banks, Birtley, and Chester-le-Street.
•    An hourly service 28 operating between Newcastle, Gateshead, Wrekenton, Birtley, Ouston, Chester-le-Street.
•    An hourly service 29 operating between Newcastle, Gateshead, Kibblesworth, Ouston and Chester-le-Street

Link here

https://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/nexus...l-bus-cuts

maybe nexus should get ant and dec in to revel the company running the service...

The 25 to chester -le - street....... ant- go north east- dec- its not you.... etc etc etc

(04 Jul 2022, 4:30 pm)Dan wrote And especially when it might not be true.


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When is it likely what the new timetable / Operator will be available?

I except most of us have the ability to try find advance info on Traveline and Bus Times etc , but the vast majority of the travelling public won’t?