Spottybus17
I’m surprised 1472 hasn’t broke down on the X4 the other day someone said they could smell burning coming from the breaks after Saltburn apparently.

 Actually  Redcar sorted the issue  so its all good

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Rumours circulating that some/all of the E400 MMCs down at Redcar are returning to Ashington for the winter, with 7609/10 acting as spares to 7401-6 on the X93.

7578 is staying at whitby Redcar

Well 7401 as had a successful day on the 62   which is absolutely brilliant  for 7401

Whats the history with 7401

It's been off the road with engine issues for around 18 months, any previous attempts to get it running has only lasted a matter of hours.

Darlingtons E300 1357 finally hit the roads today after repairs

1427 is back but got only a few runs in on the 62 and was pulled out at Middlesbrough Bus Station with Not in Service I caught a glimpse of it driving out of the station whilst I was waiting to get on the X4.

Also, what are Arrivas plans with the 2 DB300's 7609/10 next year? I would imagine they would be X94 deckers now in the summer and 2 B9's will be on the Whitby Park and Ride due to the age limit. Unless, they got something ordered for it.

(03 Dec 2024, 5:21 pm)Mike_98 wrote 1427 is back but got only a few runs in on the 62 and was pulled out at Middlesbrough Bus Station with Not in Service I caught a glimpse of it driving out of the station whilst I was waiting to get on the X4.

Also, what are Arrivas plans with the 2 DB300's 7609/10 next year? I would imagine they would be X94 deckers now in the summer and 2 B9's will be on the Whitby Park and Ride due to the age limit. Unless, they got something ordered for it.

I herd 7609 10  will either be on the x93 or x94

And 1427 is on the x4 today

(04 Nov 2024, 7:23 pm)WeMike_98 wrote God knows with the SR's. It seems like they have been having faults already. Redcar are nearly as bad as Ashington at the moment. 1433, 1436, 1449, 3052, 3053, 4706, 4707, 4718, 7401 (Again, after just returning), 7404 & 7609 all off the road. 1472 from Stockton and 2866 are filling in at Redcar. The Solos from Ashington to Redcar maybe a good idea for a move (even though they're apparently rubbish). Redcar loves their scraps xD

We don't want Ashington knackered  solos

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(05 Dec 2024, 9:41 am)Mark66t wrote We don't want Ashington knackered  solos

 1436 
1449
4706
 Have been out as I have photographs evidence

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(05 Dec 2024, 9:41 am)Mark66t wrote We don't want Ashington knackered  solos

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 1436 
1449
4706
 Have been out as I have photographs evidence

 7401 as been out on the x93  yesterday and today  4707 was out yesterday as well

Stockton   off road 

1430 since early October 
1441 first of December 
1450 
1487
1491
1557
1558

7 buses off

(05 Dec 2024, 9:41 am)Mark66t wrote We don't want Ashington knackered  solos

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 1436 
1449
4706
 Have been out as I have photographs evidence

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 7401 as been out on the x93  yesterday and today  4707 was out yesterday as well

That post was from a while ago mate.

So with the 10 New Evoras coming to Redcar next year and Pulsars coming to Redcar to see off the Temsa's along with 10 Lites going from Stockton to the North West, I would imagine the North West are sending 24 Pulsars in total (10 to Stockton and 14 to Redcar). I would imagine it would go in number order so would it be ANW's 2938 - 3047 or from 3106 - 3206.

Do we have any actual confirmed ANW fleet numbers being transferred to Stockton and Redcar?

(01 Nov 2024, 10:23 pm)Storx wrote Yeah that makes sense then, didn't realise things had improved a bit as it was a looking pretty dire even a week ago.

Had a feeling they might have sent 7510/11/12 or whatever ones are staying up here and aren't going to Yorkshire. Don't believe they're actively doing anything right now.

Obviously no use for the expresses but they could potter around on the 1/2/57/57A.

(05 Dec 2024, 12:11 pm)Mike_98 wrote So with the 10 New Evoras coming to Redcar next year and Pulsars coming to Redcar to see off the Temsa's along with 10 Lites going from Stockton to the North West, I would imagine the North West are sending 24 Pulsars in total (10 to Stockton and 14 to Redcar). I would imagine it would go in number order so would it be ANW's 2938 - 3047 or from 3106 - 3206.

Do we have any actual confirmed ANW fleet numbers being transferred to Stockton and Redcar?

The rumours going around by North East drivers on the North West Facebook group is that Stockton are getting 1404 back from Ashington and 1418 to 1429 from Redcar.

With Ashington apparently getting 5 NW Pulsars, Darlington 2 and the rest of the batch sent to Redcar.

(08 Dec 2024, 3:27 pm)Spottybus17 wrote How would that work 1418-1429 from Redcar to Stockton when 1419/1422 & 1428 are already at Stockton

Incorrect 1429 1418 aren't going anywhere

(08 Dec 2024, 3:27 pm)Spottybus17 wrote How would that work 1418-1429 from Redcar to Stockton when 1419/1422 & 1428 are already at Stockton

1404 going back from Ashington would make sense if 1418-29 are going to Stockton. That’s 9 from Redcar (18/20/21/23-27/29) and 1404 makes 10 displacing 10 Streetlites to NW in return for 10 Evora’s.
23 NW Pulsars allegedly heading for Redcar, how many are expected at Ashington?


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(08 Dec 2024, 4:22 pm)tyresmoke wrote 1404 going back from Ashington would make sense if 1418-29 are going to Stockton. That’s 9 from Redcar (18/20/21/23-27/29) and 1404 makes 10 displacing 10 Streetlites to NW in return for 10 Evora’s.
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Would assume any received at Ashington would be to cover the PVR of the 57/A and finally convert it to full size operation?

Stockton must be due some investment soon surely? They've got some strong routes but the fleet down there is closer to being a heritage fleet lately.

These changes are making it even older. There's nothing announced for the place though either, ie electrics or what not, as far as I'm aware?

Same with Blyth even known the 43/44/45 electrics are due, the 59 Plate Gemini's and Pulsar's really need to leave but again there's nothing to replace them either.

(08 Dec 2024, 5:57 pm)Storx wrote Stockton must be due some investment soon surely? They've got some strong routes but the fleet down there is closer to being a heritage fleet lately.

These changes are making it even older. There's nothing announced for the place though either, ie electrics or what not, as far as I'm aware?

Same with Blyth even known the 43/44/45 electrics are due, the 59 Plate Gemini's and Pulsar's really need to leave but again there's nothing to replace them either.

I might have missed it, but what vehicle type is coming for the 43 group of services and when are they due?

(08 Dec 2024, 6:35 pm)citaro5284 wrote I might have missed it, but what vehicle type is coming for the 43 group of services and when are they due?

Don't believe it's been announced yet so don't know. Curious myself tbh.

So what is actually confirmed being transferred from the North West to the North East and whats confirmed transferred from the North East to the North West.

Also, this transfer of Pulsars to replace similar aged Temsas ain't gonna last that long is it. I would imagine there is a bigger picture with this move. I would personally say, keep the Temsas going until there is no spare parts from others to keep them going. May aswell get more value for money out of them. Then have these North West Pulsars spare.

(27 Sep 2024, 6:29 pm)Stuartphin1639 wrote Possibly 3 of 2841/2857/2863/2866

(09 Dec 2024, 7:46 pm)Mike_98 wrote So what is actually confirmed being transferred from the North West to the North East and whats confirmed transferred from the North East to the North West.

Also, this transfer of Pulsars to replace similar aged Temsas ain't gonna last that long is it. I would imagine there is a bigger picture with this move. I would personally say, keep the Temsas going until there is no spare parts from others to keep them going. May aswell get more value for money out of them. Then have these North West Pulsars spare.

I can imagine the incoming Pulsars will be of far better quality than then Temsas, who have had historically long (and expensive) lead time on parts, and ultimately high total cost of ownership that sealed their fate. Along with the Gemini siblings, they are a proven product with a larger spares pool, but are underbelly only good for a few more years. 

Bodywork wise, Blyth's SB300s are wearing out, with the exterior bodywork corroding around the window frames, interior panels starting to distort with water ingress, at least one example having a spot light in the door area covered over with a weekly pass holder as it is stuck permanently on...

Any new investments fir Whitbys town services 95/6. All this talk of ex Merseyside Pulsars and envoras are all full sized buses. But something smaller is needed for Whitby

Arriva are getting rid of buses that are non standard it seems, they got rid of the gas buses, now they're getting rid of the Temsa's, Tempos and Scanias. I think its because spares for these buses are getting rarer these days and not the most reliable of buses either.

(09 Dec 2024, 7:46 pm)Mike_98 wrote So what is actually confirmed being transferred from the North West to the North East and whats confirmed transferred from the North East to the North West.

Also, this transfer of Pulsars to replace similar aged Temsas ain't gonna last that long is it. I would imagine there is a bigger picture with this move. I would personally say, keep the Temsas going until there is no spare parts from others to keep them going. May aswell get more value for money out of them. Then have these North West Pulsars spare.

The temsas are starting to struggle  now so with the pulsar coming it's a good idea to replace

With all these North West Pulsars coming to Teesside, do we have any news whats happening to the only Centro left in the fleet?

Also is there any Pulsar 1's coming or is it purely Pulsar 2's.

(10 Dec 2024, 7:45 pm)Mike_98 wrote With all these North West Pulsars coming to Teesside, do we have any news whats happening to the only Centro left in the fleet?

Also is there any Pulsar 1's coming or is it purely Pulsar 2's.

A mix of both… 1534 is down to be withdrawn - but I’m sure it’ll find a way to survive once again!
30 in total coming for the NE fleet, 5 going to Yorkshire to kill Tempos (3 arrived on Sunday) and I believe 20 (some of which have moved already) for Derby/Midlands to bin their Scanias


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(10 Dec 2024, 7:51 pm)tyresmoke wrote A mix of both… 1534 is down to be withdrawn - but I’m sure it’ll find a way to survive once again!
30 in total coming for the NE fleet, 5 going to Yorkshire to kill Tempos (3 arrived on Sunday) and I believe 20 (some of which have moved already) for Derby/Midlands to bin their Scanias


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Unfortunately 4 was meant to arrive at Yorkshire on Sunday, but one broke down on the way it looks like that pulsar in question now, will be going to scrap and another one will be sent in its place.

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(10 Dec 2024, 7:45 pm)Mike_98 wrote With all these North West Pulsars coming to Teesside, do we have any news whats happening to the only Centro left in the fleet?

Also is there any Pulsar 1's coming or is it purely Pulsar 2's.

Most likely  Pulsar 2s. 09/59/10 plates I assume

I imagine any Pulsar 1s still in the North West will more than likely be heading to scrap

(08 Dec 2024, 4:22 pm)tyresmoke wrote 1404 going back from Ashington would make sense if 1418-29 are going to Stockton. That’s 9 from Redcar (18/20/21/23-27/29) and 1404 makes 10 displacing 10 Streetlites to NW in return for 10 Evora’s.
23 NW Pulsars allegedly heading for Redcar, how many are expected at Ashington?


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imo there'd be much better doing

1404: Ashington to Stockton
1462/1463/1497: Ashington to Darlington
1356/1357: Darlington to Withdrawn
1406/1408/1409/1411/1416/1417/1431/1437: Darlington to Stockton
1418/1420/1421/1423/1424/1425/1426/1427/1429/1433: Redcar to Stockton

10x Streetlite - North West
9x Streetlite - Ashington
7x Streetlite - Darlington

30x NW Pulsar: Redcar / Stockton
10x Evora: Redcar

Then any future orders are focused on Stockton, Redcar and Blyth since Ashington, Darlington and Durham are pretty much sorted until 2027 at least in terms of investment to get shot of the 09/59 Pulsars and 59 Gemini's.

Much easier to have everything combined together rather than microfleets all over the place.

(11 Dec 2024, 12:25 pm)Storx wrote imo there'd be much better doing

1404: Ashington to Stockton
1462/1463/1497: Ashington to Darlington
1356/1357: Darlington to Withdrawn
1406/1408/1409/1411/1416/1417/1431/1437: Darlington to Stockton
1418/1420/1421/1423/1424/1425/1426/1427/1429/1433: Redcar to Stockton

10x Streetlite - North West
9x Streetlite - Ashington
7x Streetlite - Darlington

30x NW Pulsar: Redcar / Stockton
10x Evora: Redcar

Then any future orders are focused on Stockton, Redcar and Blyth since Ashington, Darlington and Durham are pretty much sorted until 2027 at least in terms of investment to get shot of the 09/59 Pulsars and 59 Gemini's.

Much easier to have everything combined together rather than microfleets all over the place.

 Think ur getting ahead  here  as 1423 24 25 26 27 33 aren't on. Any list of moments  that's been mentioned and also on fb 1462 was mentioned it was down for Redcar

Question  for  u  why would Redcar get shot of pulsars  when the temsas are getting withdrawn  ?