(25 Jan 2025, 8:12 pm)The Michael wrote All the posts, seem to say 20 for Sunderland... so hopefully we get 20.

They should be getting 20. The funding was for 20 they can’t really alter that. 73057-73076.

Chesterfield currently receiving there’s 73077-73088. 

Slatyford’s (now Stocktons) 73089-73106.

Rugby 73107-73111 (could be these that Stockton are getting as there’s not many) 

Leamington 73112-73121

Nuneaton 73122-73131

Stockton 73132-73171

(25 Jan 2025, 9:24 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote They should be getting 20. The funding was for 20 they can’t really alter that. 73057-73076.

Chesterfield currently receiving there’s 73077-73088. 

Slatyford’s (now Stocktons) 73089-73106.

Rugby 73107-73111 (could be these that Stockton are getting as there’s not many) 

Leamington 73112-73121

Nuneaton 73122-73131

Stockton 73132-73171

Ah good!

I keep misreading your posts, so I do apologise.

(25 Jan 2025, 9:40 pm)Michael wrote Ah good!

I keep misreading your posts, so I do apologise.

No worries you’re good! 

Due to an incident this morning, Hartlepool Corporation E200 37311 is on-loan to Stockton for the day on 57/58s - and unless it is swapped over later on, it's out until almost midnight.

37311 confirmed to be on the 57 now!

(03 Feb 2025, 10:16 am)Kuyoyo wrote Due to an incident this morning, Hartlepool Corporation E200 37311 is on-loan to Stockton for the day on 57/58s - and unless it is swapped over later on, it's out until almost midnight.

What sort of incident? Everything okay?

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27735 is now at Slatyford joining 27736/27737/27738(VOR) and 27727(VOR). Does anyone know if Slatyford are getting all of these?

(03 Feb 2025, 5:40 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote What sort of incident? Everything okay?

Small incident within the depot - resulting in 3 buses being unable to be used initially I understand. Hence what I assume was a quick call to Hartlepool to borrow one of their spare buses - 37311 just happened to be said spare.

With the 5? 2011 E300 arriving at slatyford are they replacing at slatyford? I've lost track of what has moved where and is replacing.

(04 Feb 2025, 2:52 pm)toward6931 wrote With the 5?  2011 E300 arriving at slatyford are they replacing at slatyford? I've lost track of what has moved where and is replacing.

Probably nothing, they've probably run out of buses to break so they're taking other people's.

(04 Feb 2025, 2:52 pm)toward6931 wrote With the 5?  2011 E300 arriving at slatyford are they replacing at slatyford? I've lost track of what has moved where and is replacing.

I think they’re on loan as we’re struggling for buses. Walkergates 10000 and 27820 are on loan to Slatyford too. 

Does anyone know where 26293 is? Last seen 1st February and I don’t think it’s currently at Slatyford depot couldn’t see it in engineering or anything.

(04 Feb 2025, 4:20 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote I think they’re on loan as we’re struggling for buses. Walkergates 10000 and 27820 are on loan to Slatyford too. 

Does anyone know where 26293 is? Last seen 1st February and I don’t think it’s currently at Slatyford depot couldn’t see it in engineering or anything.

It's probably in the engineering works. U can't see a lot of buses from outside the depot if u look in

Is it true that Stockton is losing it's deckers when the electrics turn up?

I think deckers are going I think?

I see the E200MMCs are not on 685s this week. Back to the older E300s. Any particular reason? Clocking up too many miles? or is this why 26293 has not been seen so the other 2 (26291 & 2) are barred from the 685 in sympathy at the moment?

(04 Feb 2025, 11:04 pm)Brampton Trev wrote I see the E200MMCs are not on 685s this week.  Back to the older E300s.  Any particular reason?  Clocking up too many miles?  or is this why 26293 has not been seen so the other 2 (26291 & 2) are barred from the 685 in sympathy at the moment?

26291 & 292 are back on the 685 today. I think it is more reliability they’re getting ruined on them routes. They had to limit them to 50mph as they were using too much fuel. The 27***’s seem to handle it better I would say they should go back to using them tbh. 

26293 must have been having some work done to it, it’s back out today on the 31’s. I fear that if the rest of the 262’s do come to slatyford which is looking likely as Stockton have taken Slatyford’s electric buses they will just get ruined. The 272’s for example aren’t as good as when they first turned up back in 2023.

(05 Feb 2025, 11:32 am)ReDemPTiion wrote 26291 & 292 are back on the 685 today. I think it is more reliability they’re getting ruined on them routes. They had to limit them to 50mph as they were using too much fuel. The 27***’s seem to handle it better I would say they should go back to using them tbh. 

What do you mean by ruined?
Too many miles in a week?
Not suited to going at 50mph or above for miles on end?

In what way do the 27*** handle the route better - different engine or gearbox or number of gears?

Stagecoach CNL bought a pair of E300s new, 27141 and 27142 64 reg with coach type seating, for the 685 and they seemed to do alright until replaced by the 68 reg E400MMCs.  Compared to Slatyford and Walker, the Stagecoach CNL Carlilse depot has a lot of long routes where 50mph is usual.

(05 Feb 2025, 12:24 pm)Brampton Trev wrote What do you mean by ruined?
Too many miles in a week?
Not suited to going at 50mph or above for miles on end?

In what way do the 27*** handle the route better - different engine or gearbox or number of gears?

Stagecoach CNL bought a pair of E300s new, 27141 and 27142 64 reg with coach type seating, for the 685 and they seemed to do alright until replaced by the 68 reg E400MMCs.  Compared to Slatyford and Walker, the Stagecoach CNL Carlilse depot has a lot of long routes where 50mph is usual.

So from what an engineer told me it’s something to do with the suspension on a 262 compared to the 27***’s, they can’t handle the potholes etc like the 27’s can which means they’ve gotta go in for work every so often. It’s the same with the older 260’s they must be built different to the older buses. But regards to the 27’s being better they never had to limit the speed on them so I guess they didn’t use as much fuel as the E200MMC’s but obviously the 262’s are more comfortable for longer journeys than the E300’s. 

Apparently there were sections on route where you could claw time back by doing 57/58mph when the buses allowed it but being limited to 50mph they can’t claw back as much time as they used to when running late.

There are a lot of sections on the 685 where you can do 60 for a few miles at a time.

(05 Feb 2025, 8:46 pm)Brampton Trev wrote There are a lot of sections on the 685 where you can do 60 for a few miles at a time.

To be fair, apart from between the Corbridge roundabout and Horsley. There's no-where on the A69 where the 685 can go above 50 mph, without breaking the law.

(05 Feb 2025, 8:52 pm)Storx wrote To be fair, apart from between the Corbridge roundabout and Horsley. There's no-where on the A69 where the 685 can go above 50 mph, without breaking the law.

Thanks for your updates about 262nn Vs 27nnn.

When are stagecoach Stockton electric buses due is soon?

That Super question the come when are ready.

Are all E300 at Stockton depot going to stagecoach hartlepool depot when new yutongs come stagecoach Stockton depot?

(08 Feb 2025, 2:50 am)Glen1974 wrote Are all E300 at Stockton depot going to stagecoach hartlepool depot when new yutongs come stagecoach Stockton depot?

I doubt it, some will go to South Shields to withdraw the 8 Dennis darts. Some will probably go to Sunderland as well to help withdraw the gas buses.

Ok mate

24115 seems to be getting repaired at Slatyford but I don’t understand why if the plan is to get rid of them. I wonder what are the chances they go to Stockton to allow the 262’s to come to Slatyford earlier?

With the new law for buses to have next stop announcements by October 2026 do we think Stagecoach refurbish the older buses ie 24101-24115 09 plates or will they scrap them and get newer buses?

(08 Feb 2025, 10:43 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote With the new law for buses to have next stop announcements by October 2026 do we think Stagecoach refurbish the older buses ie 24101-24115 09 plates or will they scrap them and get newer buses?

Hopefully new buses although a lot of buses may need replacing (not really up to date with the current fleet allocations at SCNE, as there never seems to be an official fleet leaflet)

(08 Feb 2025, 6:24 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote 24115 seems to be getting repaired at Slatyford but I don’t understand why if the plan is to get rid of them. I wonder what are the chances they go to Stockton to allow the 262’s to come to Slatyford earlier?

Stockton's Yutongs (well, the ones intended for Slatyford but redirected here instead) should be in service by the end of the month - I understand engineering were wanting (and management have given the go-ahead to do so) at least two of them to be in service from tomorrow (Monday) but as of yet they have yet to have the baseplates, CCTV or audio equipment fitted.
I'm sure the plan for now is that 24101-15 remain at Slatyford with Stockton's MMCs and Sunderland's Euro6 E300s releasing the ex-Stockton E300s. As yet, there's no home for the remaining E300s at Stockton - all that seems certain from the Stockton fleet is that all the MANs and E300 27506/7/9/10 will be withdrawn and sold for scrap and the E200s 37314-6 will more than likely end up at Hartlepool to displace 3 of their Darts. The new home for the E400s at Stockton are also currently unknown - however, as I have hinted, Hartlepool have put in a request for an allocation of deckers to deal with the peak-time loadings on the 1s out of Middlesbrough on an afternoon which would then also help Stockton out if a problem crops up with their electric decker for the Sedgefield School Contract.

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(08 Feb 2025, 4:33 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote I doubt it, some will go to South Shields to withdraw the 8 Dennis darts. Some will probably go to Sunderland as well to help withdraw the gas buses.

Let's not forget Slatyford will have a large number of spare E200s once the 35 passes to Central Taxis - after all, they'll be no need for 12 E200s for a PVR of 6.

(09 Feb 2025, 9:41 am)Kuyoyo wrote Stockton's Yutongs (well, the ones intended for Slatyford but redirected here instead) should be in service by the end of the month - I understand engineering were wanting (and management have given the go-ahead to do so) at least two of them to be in service from tomorrow (Monday) but as of yet they have yet to have the baseplates, CCTV or audio equipment fitted.
I'm sure the plan for now is that 24101-15 remain at Slatyford with Stockton's MMCs and Sunderland's Euro6 E300s releasing the ex-Stockton E300s. As yet, there's no home for the remaining E300s at Stockton - all that seems certain from the Stockton fleet is that all the MANs and E300 27506/7/9/10 will be withdrawn and sold for scrap and the E200s 37314-6 will more than likely end up at Hartlepool to displace 3 of their Darts. The new home for the E400s at Stockton are also currently unknown - however, as I have hinted, Hartlepool have put in a request for an allocation of deckers to deal with the peak-time loadings on the 1s out of Middlesbrough on an afternoon which would then also help Stockton out if a problem crops up with their electric decker for the Sedgefield School Contract.

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I think it’s a bit of a joke keeping 09 plate buses at Slatyford and losing 65 plates. Where are the 64/65 plates going? I’ll never understand why they made 24101-115 euro 6 they’re awful things to drive I can’t stand them. 

I’m going to assume once the electrics come the 241’s will be withdrawn but god knows when or if we’ll ever get the electric buses.

With regards to the double deckers it makes sense Hartlepool getting some as the 1 is very busy but they’ll more than likely head back to Newcastle.