(13 Mar 2025, 8:24 am)BusLoverMum wrote White 25 reg E200MMC on the 50, this morning. Looks like Washington are leasing some vehicles, now.

https://bustimes.org/vehicles/gnel-yy25d...2025-03-13

I saw one on the A690 last night at the Prospect, assumed it was a GCT bus but it could be that. Couldn't make out the destination it was too far away.

(13 Mar 2025, 8:33 am)F114TML wrote I saw one on the A690 last night at the Prospect, assumed it was a GCT bus but it could be that. Couldn't make out the destination it was too far away.

Looks like they have two single deck and a double deck. It might make a tiny dent in the problem.

If bustimes is to be believed, over half of the buses on the 21 are actually angel streetdecks today!

(13 Mar 2025, 9:42 am)Iamtheone8483748 wrote If bustimes is to be believed, over half of the buses on the 21 are actually angel streetdecks today!

I noticed that - they had a few running on local services yesterday so must have passed the test!

Those might be the long Enviro 200 MMC's as well, the better version with the 6 cylinder 6.7l engine. I have observed that ADL tend to register the 6 cylinder ones with the YY reg and the smaller ones with YX.

Go North East needs to invest in something like these permanently though. There is always Solos on full size routes at Washington like the 8 or 50

(13 Mar 2025, 8:24 am)BusLoverMum wrote White 25 reg E200MMC on the 50, this morning. Looks like Washington are leasing some vehicles, now.

https://bustimes.org/vehicles/gnel-yy25d...2025-03-13

(13 Mar 2025, 8:33 am)F114TML wrote I saw one on the A690 last night at the Prospect, assumed it was a GCT bus but it could be that. Couldn't make out the destination it was too far away.

They are being kept at Sunderland Depot, a total of 10 , apparently

(13 Mar 2025, 10:46 am)Arriva7446 wrote Those might be the long Enviro 200 MMC's as well, the better version with the 6 cylinder 6.7l engine. I have observed that ADL tend to register the 6 cylinder ones with the YY reg and the smaller ones with YX.

Go North East needs to invest in something like these permanently though. There is always Solos on full size routes at Washington like the 8 or 50

If saying that, I wonder why GNE's 69 plate examples are having issues yet GNE's & Arriva's older 4.5l Cummins StreetLites between 2013-16 have largely been okay although some starting to perhaps show their age.

(13 Mar 2025, 2:20 pm)L469 YVK wrote If saying that, I wonder why GNE's 69 plate examples are having issues yet GNE's & Arriva's older 4.5l Cummins StreetLites between 2013-16 have largely been okay although some starting to perhaps show their age.

Clearly the problem isn't the buses themselves.

(13 Mar 2025, 8:24 am)BusLoverMum wrote White 25 reg E200MMC on the 50, this morning. Looks like Washington are leasing some vehicles, now.

https://bustimes.org/vehicles/gnel-yy25d...2025-03-13

Three vehicles today, another 7 to come. Running out of Deptford for the next couple of months.

Well I hope they come on the 342 then, rather than going from full Enviro 200 to full streetlite when Go North East take over, they could ease us in with a couple of these brand new buses. I'm just not looking forward to the daily streetlite ride again!

Don't know if the 342 is actually being operated by Deptford though, as that seems odd, but sure I read that was the case. If it's being operated by Percy Main their Daimler Streetlites are even worse, although they break down so often you might get a nice Cobalt decker substitute. If not it's going to be painful engine vibrations stuck in traffic at Benton ASDA traffic lights. Cummins streetlites are ok ish I suppose, but not as good as an Enviro 200.

(13 Mar 2025, 4:08 pm)Arriva7446 wrote Well I hope they come on the 342 then, rather than going from full Enviro 200 to full streetlite when Go North East take over, they could ease us in with a couple of these brand new buses. I'm just not looking forward to the daily streetlite ride again!

Don't know if the 342 is actually being operated by Deptford though, as that seems odd, but sure I read that was the case. If it's being operated by Percy Main their Daimler Streetlites are even worse, although they break down so often you might get a nice Cobalt decker substitute. If not it's going to be painful engine vibrations stuck in traffic at Benton ASDA traffic lights. Cummins streetlites are ok ish I suppose, but not as good as an Enviro 200.

Im surprised its not the Solos like they used before on the little coasters

Are they all going to Washy or will they be spread among more depots when the other 7 arrive?

(13 Mar 2025, 9:32 pm)nova347 wrote Are they all going to Washy or will they be spread among more depots when the other 7 arrive?

All for Washington, kept at Sunderland...

(13 Mar 2025, 8:24 am)BusLoverMum wrote White 25 reg E200MMC on the 50, this morning. Looks like Washington are leasing some vehicles, now.

https://bustimes.org/vehicles/gnel-yy25d...2025-03-13

If Bustimes is to be trusted, it didn't last the day either!

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(13 Mar 2025, 9:38 pm)Retro Nero wrote All for Washington, kept at Sunderland...

Driven by Sunderland staff?

(13 Mar 2025, 10:01 pm)Andreos1 wrote If Bustimes is to be trusted, it didn't last the day either!

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Driven by Sunderland staff?

I've been known to conk out on that hill, too.

(13 Mar 2025, 10:01 pm)Andreos1 wrote If Bustimes is to be trusted, it didn't last the day either!

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Driven by Sunderland staff?

Appears the ticket machine got replaced at around lunchtime - https://bustimes.org/vehicles/gnel-9033

(13 Mar 2025, 10:01 pm)Andreos1 wrote If Bustimes is to be trusted, it didn't last the day either!

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Driven by Sunderland staff?

Being picked up first Bus by Washington Drivers and taken back on last run by Washington ( Washington depot will only be registered to have a certain number of buses ) hence being kept at Sunderland

(13 Mar 2025, 4:08 pm)Arriva7446 wrote Well I hope they come on the 342 then, rather than going from full Enviro 200 to full streetlite when Go North East take over, they could ease us in with a couple of these brand new buses. I'm just not looking forward to the daily streetlite ride again!

Don't know if the 342 is actually being operated by Deptford though, as that seems odd, but sure I read that was the case. If it's being operated by Percy Main their Daimler Streetlites are even worse, although they break down so often you might get a nice Cobalt decker substitute. If not it's going to be painful engine vibrations stuck in traffic at Benton ASDA traffic lights. Cummins streetlites are ok ish I suppose, but not as good as an Enviro 200.

Surely the 342 will be operated by Solos - weren't a few made spare with the Sunderland changes in January?

(Yesterday, 10:58 am)busmanT wrote Surely the 342 will be operated by Solos - weren't a few made spare with the Sunderland changes in January?

I'm not really sure as i'm not that familiar with the services around Sunderland, but I do hope this to be the case. That would be preferable.

(Yesterday, 7:31 am)Retro Nero wrote Being picked up first Bus by Washington Drivers and taken back on last run by Washington ( Washington depot will only be registered to have a certain number of buses ) hence being kept at Sunderland

Presumably paying them overtime to get to and from Deptford, in addition to the mileage.

On top of having resource parked up waiting to be fixed. 
And the leasing costs. 

Not very cost effective at all!

(Yesterday, 5:01 am)omnicity4659 wrote Appears the ticket machine got replaced at around lunchtime - https://bustimes.org/vehicles/gnel-9033

Interesting. 

I saw it had been struggling for time and thought it had fallen curse of the GNE engineering team. 

Mind, looking at it, it kept losing it throughout it's day on the 50.

(Yesterday, 1:17 pm)Andreos1 wrote Presumably paying them overtime to get to and from Deptford, in addition to the mileage.

On top of having resource parked up waiting to be fixed. 
And the leasing costs. 

Not very cost effective at all!

Being Shuttled over , I assume included into the appropriate duty

(Yesterday, 1:17 pm)Andreos1 wrote Presumably paying them overtime to get to and from Deptford, in addition to the mileage.

On top of having resource parked up waiting to be fixed. 
And the leasing costs. 

Not very cost effective at all!

Looks good for when the they inevitably get hauled up before the Traffic Commissioner.

(Yesterday, 10:58 am)busmanT wrote Surely the 342 will be operated by Solos - weren't a few made spare with the Sunderland changes in January?

Don't think any were released were they? I'm sure Percy Main had already got them for the 317 when the second hand Streetlites came in which displaced some out. 

The changes as far as I'm aware withdrew the remaining Versa's instead.

(11 hours ago)Storx wrote Don't think any were released were they? I'm sure Percy Main had already got them for the 317 when the second hand Streetlites came in which displaced some out. 

The changes as far as I'm aware withdrew the remaining Versa's instead.

Unless they plan to run the 317 with Streetlites and put the Solos on the 340/341/342