(16 Mar 2025, 6:15 pm)busesofthenortheast wrote If they are gonna dump the oldest vehicles at Stockton then they might just dump the NW pulsars at Stockton & give Redcar the Streetlites who knows just have to wait & see what happens

Yeah, the other question is where are the E200MMC's going, maybe they could displace these Pulsars eventually?

I'm unsure whether there's a route at Stockton which could be ran by midibuses though, but maybe that could be the end goal ie. Electrics to Darlington, Enviro 200MMC to Stockton, Streetlite to Redcar, Pulsar withdrawn rather than the original Electrics to Redcar, Pulsar (assume) withdrawn.

Personally I do think they'll leave the North East though.

(16 Mar 2025, 12:03 pm)Mark66t wrote Pulsar will be going to Redcar  I been told this  by more than one person  Streetlites are reaming at Stockton

Redcar lost the lites for a reason  so this rumour is definitely not true

(16 Mar 2025, 7:05 pm)Storx wrote Yeah, the other question is where are the E200MMC's going, maybe they could displace these Pulsars eventually?

I'm unsure whether there's a route at Stockton which could be ran by midibuses though, but maybe that could be the end goal ie. Electrics to Darlington, Enviro 200MMC to Stockton, Streetlite to Redcar, Pulsar withdrawn rather than the original Electrics to Redcar, Pulsar (assume) withdrawn.

Personally I do think they'll leave the North East though.

Streetlites aren't going to Redcar  its been mentioned on a group chat tonight and it wasn't mentioned by spotters

(16 Mar 2025, 7:05 pm)Storx wrote Yeah, the other question is where are the E200MMC's going, maybe they could displace these Pulsars eventually?

I'm unsure whether there's a route at Stockton which could be ran by midibuses though, but maybe that could be the end goal ie. Electrics to Darlington, Enviro 200MMC to Stockton, Streetlite to Redcar, Pulsar withdrawn rather than the original Electrics to Redcar, Pulsar (assume) withdrawn.

Personally I do think they'll leave the North East though.

The mmcs might be good for the 95. And I'd they created another town service potentially between ruswarp and Sainsbury's via park and ride. 
Then the 81 it's mostly down on the solos anyways.

(16 Mar 2025, 10:54 pm)BRyland wrote The mmcs might be good for the 95. And I'd they created another town service potentially between ruswarp and Sainsbury's via park and ride. 
Then the 81 it's mostly down on the solos anyways.

Be a nice upgrade for the 95  definitely  where the solo's carrying on  just lately 
Then send 2 for Redcar  for the 81 which again would be nicely suited  but let's see what happens

(16 Mar 2025, 7:05 pm)Storx wrote Yeah, the other question is where are the E200MMC's going, maybe they could displace these Pulsars eventually?

I'm unsure whether there's a route at Stockton which could be ran by midibuses though, but maybe that could be the end goal ie. Electrics to Darlington, Enviro 200MMC to Stockton, Streetlite to Redcar, Pulsar withdrawn rather than the original Electrics to Redcar, Pulsar (assume) withdrawn.

Personally I do think they'll leave the North East though.

Not sure if the 7 to Yarm would still be suitable to use a smaller bus as it's been Solo/MPD worked in the past.

The only other one which comes to mind for possible use is Ashington for the 434 and the 415/460 on a Saturday.

Pretty much everything now needs something larger than those E200MMCs.

We're still over a year away yet from Darlington's new electrics arriving, so who knows what will be needed for what and where this time next year, most of the Tees Valley supported services are now supported into next year, unsure how DalesBus would work next year for Darlington if all the E200MMCs departed from there as electrics likely won't be suitable for range on those routes,  unless they went back to using the 67 plate StreetLite's again.

(16 Mar 2025, 10:54 pm)Ryland wrote The mmcs might be good for the 95. And I'd they created another town service potentially between ruswarp and Sainsbury's via park and ride. 
Then the 81 it's mostly down on the solos anyways.

95 is supposedly becoming a big bus working when the service changes occur next month, not really worth having an E200MMC for a service which requires 1 bus for most of the day, when a larger one will manage, reduces the chances of one ending up on the X93/X94 if nothing else.

(16 Mar 2025, 10:37 pm)Mark66t wrote Streetlites aren't going to Redcar  its been mentioned on a group chat tonight and it wasn't mentioned by spotters

It’s really not up to group chats where buses go it’s up to commercial what they want to do with the buses so if they want to move the Streetlites to Redcar to make Stocktons fleet older then that’s the plan that commercial can do no one else it’s up to commercial

(Yesterday, 1:12 am)busesofthenortheast wrote It’s really not up to group chats where buses go it’s up to commercial what they want to do with the buses so if they want to move the Streetlites to Redcar to make Stocktons fleet older then that’s the plan that commercial can do no one else it’s up to commercial

Ur kind of wrong  Stockton have the  newer Fleet  Redcar  as the older buses

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(Yesterday, 7:42 am)Mark66t wrote Ur kind of wrong  Stockton have the  newer Fleet  Redcar  as the older buses puls pulsars are far better suited for Redcar work and more reliable  as there operatior out on fair more hilly routes than Stockton is more flat routes than any manger steap hills   

(Yesterday, 7:42 am)Mark66t wrote Ur kind of wrong  Stockton have the  newer Fleet  Redcar  as the older buses

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Like I’ve just said commercial decides what they want to do with the buses, they moved the Streetlites out of Redcar so they can put older buses at Redcar for new buses that’s what’s happening so it looks like they’re doing the exact same thing for Stockton giving Redcar the Streetlites & swap them for pulsars so they can put older pulsars at Stockton for new buses that’s what it sounds like commercial are doing

busesofthenortheast
Like I’ve just said commercial decides what they want to do with the buses, they moved the Streetlites out of Redcar so they can put older buses at Redcar for new buses that’s what’s happening so it looks like they’re doing the exact same thing for Stockton giving Redcar the Streetlites & swap them for pulsars so they can put older pulsars at Stockton for new buses that’s what it sounds like commercial are doing

Yeah u just want all the pulsars at Stockton  asper

(11 hours ago)Mark66t wrote busesofthenortheast
Like I’ve just said commercial decides what they want to do with the buses, they moved the Streetlites out of Redcar so they can put older buses at Redcar for new buses that’s what’s happening so it looks like they’re doing the exact same thing for Stockton giving Redcar the Streetlites & swap them for pulsars so they can put older pulsars at Stockton for new buses that’s what it sounds like commercial are doing

Yeah u just want all the pulsars at Stockton  asper

I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with you cba

Absolutely nothing to stop Arriva from moving older vehicles around to create a more attractive businesses case. Given that Redcar aren't getting the electrics for the 63 anymore, 10 year old Streetlites may well be the next best thing vice 15 year old Pulsars. Bear in mind Stagecoach in Stockton is about to become a flagship all electric depot, it'll be putting Arriva to shame and with a massive batch of Pulsars up for renewal they might be putting the case forward for a similar full depot order.

All this chat about people wanting certain buses at Redcar vs Stockton is childish tbh - Arriva's a business not some enthusiast fantasy - they're not gonna move a bus from one depot to another cause you want them to! Hell Arriva haven't had any sort of heritage livery for years.

(6 hours ago)peter wrote Absolutely nothing to stop Arriva from moving older vehicles around to create a more attractive businesses case. Given that Redcar aren't getting the electrics for the 63 anymore, 10 year old Streetlites may well be the next best thing vice 15 year old Pulsars. Bear in mind Stagecoach in Stockton is about to become a flagship all electric depot, it'll be putting Arriva to shame and with a massive batch of Pulsars up for renewal they might be putting the case forward for a similar full depot order.

All this chat about people wanting certain buses at Redcar vs Stockton is childish tbh - Arriva's a business not some enthusiast fantasy - they're not gonna move a bus from one depot to another cause you want them to! Hell Arriva haven't had any sort of heritage livery for years.

I’m just saying about the rumour that I’ve heard but someone else is saying it’s not true all I’m saying is that I heard about the rumour, I ain’t moaning about it at all but someone clearly is

(Yesterday, 12:15 am)Jimmi wrote Not sure if the 7 to Yarm would still be suitable to use a smaller bus as it's been Solo/MPD worked in the past.

The only other one which comes to mind for possible use is Ashington for the 434 and the 415/460 on a Saturday.

Pretty much everything now needs something larger than those E200MMCs.

We're still over a year away yet from Darlington's new electrics arriving, so who knows what will be needed for what and where this time next year, most of the Tees Valley supported services are now supported into next year, unsure how DalesBus would work next year for Darlington if all the E200MMCs departed from there as electrics likely won't be suitable for range on those routes,  unless they went back to using the 67 plate StreetLite's again.

Yeah the 7 was the route I was thinking about but not sure either.

Deep down though I do think they'll end up down in Kent. They've still got 04 Plate MPD's in use which they'll probably want to get shot of.

Obviously doesn't do much for up here but there's been a lot of similar orders lately like the Evoras at Redcar seeing out midlife Streetlite's to Liverpool, the electrics in Leicester displacing the 72 Plate MMC's to Leeds, the brand new E400's to Kent sending their 16 Plate examples to Durham, similar Evora swap down in Luton and so on.