(Yesterday, 1:44 pm)LVK 404L wrote Ive said similar about the 3 moving forwards.  If they keep E200s on, its gping to have manu issues.  They need to look at E300s as dedicated vehicles perhaps

Is it even that busy? The core of the route is still 8 BPH seems more than enough to me from an outsider.

I can see them ditching the 12 next, they'd probably mess with the 3/4 again to cover it or maybe even the 516 if they intend to keep that

(Yesterday, 2:33 pm)Storx wrote Is it even that busy? The core of the route is still 8 BPH seems more than enough to me from an outsider.

From Whiteleas and Biidck Hall it will be yes.  As an outsider you arent seeing this on a daily basis all day everyday.   But as a local, beleive me,  this will be getting tough.  

People from Whiteleas will not walk to get the 4 from far end of Whiteleas especially those at the back of Whiteleas, ie Landseer Gardens and co.

From Biddick Hall its like teaching your granny to suck eggs,  for decades passengers have always got the 3, or the old 5 after deregulation or the 501 prior to deregulation down Standhope Road into Shields, no one ever opted for 4 or its previous (502) as they 'go the long way' around the nook and westoe.  Albeit its only a few extra minutes, amd now the 3 will be adding time going via Whiteleas, its going to take a while to get people to change habit of a lifetime.

I do agree that the numbers should have been revised,  3, 4 should have become 9,19, i think it was you mentioned that a while back. By doing so, that would have forced passengers to change pattern, but not at present.

(Yesterday, 2:41 pm)LVK 404L wrote From Whiteleas and Biidck Hall it will be yes.  As an outsider you arent seeing this on a daily basis all day everyday.   But as a local, beleive me,  this will be getting tough.  

People from Whiteleas will not walk to get the 4 from far end of Whiteleas especially those at the back of Whiteleas, ie Landseer Gardens and co.

From Biddick Hall its like teaching your granny to suck eggs,  for decades passengers have always got the 3, or the old 5 after deregulation or the 501 prior to deregulation down Standhope Road into Shields, no one ever opted for 4 or its previous (502) as they 'go the long way' around the nook and westoe.  Albeit its only a few extra minutes, amd now the 3 will be adding time going via Whiteleas, its going to take a while to get people to change habit of a lifetime.

I do agree that the numbers should have been revised,  3, 4 should have become 9,19, i think it was you mentioned that a while back. By doing so, that would have forced passengers to change pattern, but not at present.

Aye some fair points was genuinely curious. Btw I was thinking more the 18 more so than the 4 there actually forgot they were both serving Biddick tbh. Wasn't too sure how many used it that point of the route tbh. 

I think they've got the timetable so the 3/18 are every 7.5 minutes apart from West Harton to Chichester.

I know right now checking timetables that the 3/18 shadow each other so guessing that's their real reason for it. Yeah it was me who mentioned the numbers though to confuse people (intentionally) so they notice the changes. Confusing having the same number but doing totally different things imo.