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(22 Jun 2025, 5:55 pm)Teessider2014 wrote All MAN vehicles and 27507/510 have now been withdrawn from service at Stockton with a further batch of yutongs in service tomorrow
(22 Jun 2025, 6:26 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote Sad times. Since 27160-27174 are heading to Carlisle/Morecambe do you know where 27175-27181 are going and 27238-27251?
(22 Jun 2025, 9:26 pm)Storx wrote Just curious, did you ever hear about them E200MMC's that were linked to Slatyford?
Noticed that there's 15 buses going to Cumbria which would withdraw the 8 MAN's at Morecambe but would leave 7 at Carlisle, which is conveniently the number of E200MMC's they've got which are rather unreliable for them and could easily be the "E200's" that have been mentioned.
(22 Jun 2025, 9:46 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Think it's supposed to be the older E200s so would be surprised if it was the MMCs.
(23 Jun 2025, 8:23 am)Storx wrote Aye you're probably right, shame though since Slatyford has an inappropiate number of E200's currently.
Like you'd think something like
7x 64 Plate E300's / 8x 65 Plate E200's to Carlisle
7x E200MMC's Carlisle to Slatyford
8x Older Vehicles Carlisle Withdrawn
Would be better, means Carlisle loses their microfleet of vehicles for Slatyfords gain since the E200's are totally inappropiate on the 70's etc which they're doing daily now which would be good enough for Carlisle and their local services.
(21 Jun 2025, 10:37 am)Kuyoyo wrote None of the examples moving to the Cumbria fleet have been Slatyford machines - all of them have been allocated to Stockton depot since new.
(22 Jun 2025, 9:26 pm)Storx wrote Just curious, did you ever hear about them E200MMC's that were linked to Slatyford?
Noticed that there's 15 buses going to Cumbria which would withdraw the 8 MAN's at Morecambe but would leave 7 at Carlisle, which is conveniently the number of E200MMC's they've got which are rather unreliable for them and could easily be the "E200's" that have been mentioned.
(23 Jun 2025, 9:00 am)Brampton Trev wrote Apologies - I got the 271xxs mixed up with the 272xx which worked the 685. Did they not move to Slatyford from Stockton to meet the Newcastle LEZ requirements?
(22 Jun 2025, 9:26 pm)Storx wrote Just curious, did you ever hear about them E200MMC's that were linked to Slatyford?
Noticed that there's 15 buses going to Cumbria which would withdraw the 8 MAN's at Morecambe but would leave 7 at Carlisle, which is conveniently the number of E200MMC's they've got which are rather unreliable for them and could easily be the "E200's" that have been mentioned.
(23 Jun 2025, 5:08 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote Nah it went quiet wonder if they changed their minds and gave us crappy E200’s instead. We’ve recently gotten 37318 and 37319 which we don’t need E200’s but never mind. I wouldn’t mind them 65 plate MMC’s to come over would make sense
(23 Jun 2025, 7:16 pm)col87 wrote I wouldn’t mind some of the withdrawn Stockton buses coming to Hartlepool for a few years. I asked the management the other week and they said full size buses would fit over the pits at Hartlepool so god knows then. Apparently it’s to do with roads why it’s only midi buses but full size buses would actually suit the 6/7 and 1 as not really any narrow roads they go down. I hope they at least put deckers or full size buses during the carnival try getting a 7 then and claiming midi buses are fine.
(23 Jun 2025, 8:01 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote Any idea what’s happening with 19678/80/81? I heard maybe 1 is going to Hartlepool unless that’s changed now. I’d put money on them going Walkergate, 3 of the 277’s go Slatyford and 3 of the 364’s go Hartlepool to replace the remaining 3? darts.
(23 Jun 2025, 8:12 pm)Storx wrote Aye that's fair on the E200MMC's. Btw think there's still 3 E200's at Stockton isn't there? Them plus the E400 should be enough to get rid of the last Darts. There's way too many E200's in the North East now though which bar the 32/32A should be nowhere near North of the Tyne imo.
(23 Jun 2025, 8:01 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote Any idea what’s happening with 19678/80/81? I heard maybe 1 is going to Hartlepool unless that’s changed now. I’d put money on them going Walkergate, 3 of the 277’s go Slatyford and 3 of the 364’s go Hartlepool to replace the remaining 3? darts.
(23 Jun 2025, 8:01 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote Any idea what’s happening with 19678/80/81? I heard maybe 1 is going to Hartlepool unless that’s changed now. I’d put money on them going Walkergate, 3 of the 277’s go Slatyford and 3 of the 364’s go Hartlepool to replace the remaining 3? darts.
(23 Jun 2025, 10:33 pm)col87 wrote I still don’t understand what’s going to happen at Stockton if they is a big power failure like they was on Friday on it affected most of East Durham and Tees Valley with no power at all and a generator probably will not be enough to the 20 odd buses needed out in the early hours either.
(24 Jun 2025, 8:55 am)Kuyoyo wrote At least 1 of the Stockton E400s is due to go to Hartlepool mainly for use on the 1 due to high loadings on certain afternoon trips out of Middlesbrough (and some morning ones into Middlesbrough) and additionally to be available if Stockton's Yutong decker is unavailable for any reason to work the school contract to Sedgefield (although there are now rumours that an additional two Yutong U11DDs have been ordered for Stockton).They are rumours from drivers that some of the Stockton fleet is actually going to be coming to Hartlepool with work happening on the pits although at this point I don’t actually know what to believe anymore as things are constantly being said then getting changed. If the buses are surplus though then ideally you send them to Hartlepool with like you say some also going to South Shields with the rest used as floating vehicles between all the north east depots ( if euro 6). That would make the most sense.
36970 has replaced 34605, leaving just 35234 and 35236 in use at Hartlepool - with the 16 ending on Saturday, you would assume 36968 would follow that across (36969 is presently VOR). 37315 is one to query as to where that ends up.
Let's not also forget that while we know 27160-27174 are off to the Cumbria and North Lancashire fleet (8 for Morecambe, 7 for Carlisle), that still leaves 27175-27181, 27238-27251, 27615, 27805/9/12 and 27913/4 unaccounted for as yet - although I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of those didn't end up at South Shields (as Dart replacements and maybe to release some more newer E200s to Hartlepool to allow the worst of the 36081-36094 batch to be withdrawn) and Sunderland (as gas bus replacements, and maybe the same as mentioned as South Shields).
Except said power failure did not affect Stockton - and it would be the same situation if Stockton was as now with the diesel fleet, given the fuel pumps would also be off in a power cut (hence the issue one day the other week - someone blew a fuse within the depot and as a result, there was 16 buses that didn't get refuelled that evening).
(24 Jun 2025, 4:16 pm)col87 wrote They are rumours from drivers that some of the Stockton fleet is actually going to be coming to Hartlepool with work happening on the pits although at this point I don’t actually know what to believe anymore as things are constantly being said then getting changed. If the buses are surplus though then ideally you send them to Hartlepool with like you say some also going to South Shields with the rest used as floating vehicles between all the north east depots ( if euro 6). That would make the most sense.
To be honest I don’t think Stagecoach really know themselves what’s actually happening especially when one of the man 18.220 was tested on Thursday for just two days extra in service so that can actually see further use for a bit longer.
(24 Jun 2025, 6:13 pm)benji123 wrote Every time you mention the pits I take a shot...
(24 Jun 2025, 6:47 pm)Economic505 wrote Let’s hope they do sort the pits out. As a fare paying passenger in Hartlepool, I don’t expect to be treated as a third class passenger compared to Stockton Borough.
(24 Jun 2025, 6:47 pm)Economic505 wrote Let’s hope they do sort the pits out. As a fare paying passenger in Hartlepool, I don’t expect to be treated as a third class passenger compared to Stockton Borough.
(Today, 12:37 am)TheGlen1974 wrote Want happened to EV E400mmc 80000 at Stockton depot is coming into service soon?
(Today, 8:15 am)ReDemPTiion wrote It’s not there anymore it’s currently at Hull I believe
27173 is currently sitting at Slatyford en route to Carlisle/Morecambe. This has been brought up and swapped with Yutong 73168. This makes me wonder if Slatyford could be getting the 65 plate E200MMC’s from Carlisle when they come for these.
(Today, 8:37 am)Storx wrote Wonder if they might do the swapovers via the 685. Unsure the legality of it running straight into service from Newcastle, but don't see why it can't.
Ironic as one of Carlisle's E200MMC's is heading over to Newcastle right now but doubt it'll be swapped out today - if they do.
(Today, 7:10 am)Storx wrote In fairness, they don't need to sort the pits out. There's still loads of vehicles they can purchase which are 10.9m or below. I wouldn't really say getting 64/65 Plate E300's which are 10/11 year old is exactly what Hartlepool wants anyway as they're the definition of a cast off.
(Today, 10:09 am)benji123 wrote There's no point in trying to explain this, they need the 'capacity'. All this work to allow buses with 41 seats to replace buses with 37/38 seats...
(10 hours ago)col87 wrote so what 4 - 6 extra still means more seats which means buses won’t be as full with people having to stand. Obviously you don’t use buses in Hartlepool especially at peak times when they really can be full loads
