It's the sort of service where there should be a DRT imo. Oh wait, it doesn't serve Billingham or the Clarences...
I really don't understand why you can't use Teesflex in the urban areas personally, as long as there's no competing service. There's loads of missing links which they'd cover and who knows - they might actually have some passengers...
Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
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(24 May 2025, 10:45 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Who would have thought it. A service that runs 1 journey each direction, four days a week, was a failure. Intrigued how it costs £80 a day in labour costs alone to run a service which is 32 mins long, so just £80 for 1hr04 mins a day, not bad.
Doomed to fail from the beginning.
It was never going to work.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(25 May 2025, 9:22 am)Storx wrote It's the sort of service where there should be a DRT imo. Oh wait, it doesn't serve Billingham or the Clarences...
I really don't understand why you can't use Teesflex in the urban areas personally, as long as there's no competing service. There's loads of missing links which they'd cover and who knows - they might actually have some passengers...
Reading the latest TVCA report it seems that Flex struggles to provide enough capacity and is actually turning away customers - I think it said it can only handle 64% of requests.
The service is only funded until August and who knows what will happen beyond this time.
Interestingly also in the same report there is a section on supported services and services 13/13b, 35 and 39 have all recently been added to the list for three months until August. I can only assume it’s evening and/or Sunday services being supported given the funding attributed to each service.
EDIT: Further clarification in the latest TVCA report confirms it to be services 13, 35 and Hartlepool’s 3/3a that have been chucked in wholly, with TVCA now funding those until March 2026.
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RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(12 Jun 2025, 2:47 pm)Retro Nero wrote Go North East has won the 99
Would of been nice for someone else to have it for once..........
Also its a shame, Stagecoach tickets aren't accepted on the route, I would of defo used it more, if they were and I bet others would.
Be the same when GNE take it over.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(12 Jun 2025, 5:57 pm)Michael wrote Are they?, when did that change?
I thought u couldn't haha
Usually in the first week of taken over of the service, the new company honour the previous company tickets, but baring in mind a lot of people in the Sunderland area will have the Sunderland Smart Zone ticket which can be used on Stagecoach,Go North East and Arriva in the Sunderland City Centre.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(12 Jun 2025, 5:58 pm)Economic505 wrote Another Stagecoach Sunderland service bites the dust. The company seems to be in a doom loop at the moment.
Wonder if the bus allocated to the 99 will go in to a spare role or move depot.
Still think the 99 should be merged with another route.. shame the 18 has gone, would of merged those together to make 1 massive loop service.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(12 Jun 2025, 5:57 pm)Michael wrote Are they?, when did that change?
I thought u couldn't haha
When we won the contract back, it's accepted sun/tw dayriders and megariders and the sunderland smartzone.
(12 Jun 2025, 9:16 pm)Michael wrote Wonder if the bus allocated to the 99 will go in to a spare role or move depot.
Still think the 99 should be merged with another route.. shame the 18 has gone, would of merged those together to make 1 massive loop service.
I did do a suggestion in the SC suggestions thread extending it to Seaburn via Hendon and Town.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(12 Jun 2025, 10:50 pm)UF114TML wrote When we won the contract back, it's accepted sun/tw dayriders and megariders and the sunderland smartzone.
I did do a suggestion in the SC suggestions thread extending it to Seaburn via Hendon and Town.
No reason why SC can’t create a route based off the 99 and 18. There must some mileage in an amalgamated route. Besides, the Sunderland SC network has to grow at some point. Might not be tomorrow, or next month , but it will happen.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(12 Jun 2025, 11:01 pm)Economic505 wrote No reason why SC can’t create a route based off the 99 and 18. There must some mileage in an amalgamated route. Besides, the Sunderland SC network has to grow at some point. Might not be tomorrow, or next month , but it will happen.
They should bring back the old 18/19 circular from the Busways days.
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RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(13 Jun 2025, 10:52 pm)DaveFromUpNorth wrote No they shouldn't in it current format at the time it served a purpose now it doesnt however I am in favour of looped services
The 18 and 19 was iconic but so was the 139 140 loop
Yes, the 139/140 was a top route. The 99 bollocks, swapping between the major operators year on year is stupid.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
7th August:
PB0002404/3
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 12 Two Ball Lonnen Walker or Wallsend
PB0002404/8
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 39 (40) Chapel House or Dumpling Hall Wallsend or Walker
PB0002404/40
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 87 (72A, 71, 72) Grainger Street North Walbottle, Chapel House or Newbiggin Hall
PB0002404/9
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 63 (62) Killingworth Throckley, North Walbottle or Middle Callerton
PB0002404/3
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 12 Two Ball Lonnen Walker or Wallsend
PB0002404/8
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 39 (40) Chapel House or Dumpling Hall Wallsend or Walker
PB0002404/40
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 87 (72A, 71, 72) Grainger Street North Walbottle, Chapel House or Newbiggin Hall
PB0002404/9
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 63 (62) Killingworth Throckley, North Walbottle or Middle Callerton
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
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(04 Jul 2025, 10:24 am)Michael wrote 7th August:
PB0002404/3
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 12 Two Ball Lonnen Walker or Wallsend
PB0002404/8
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 39 (40) Chapel House or Dumpling Hall Wallsend or Walker
PB0002404/40
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 87 (72A, 71, 72) Grainger Street North Walbottle, Chapel House or Newbiggin Hall
PB0002404/9
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 63 (62) Killingworth Throckley, North Walbottle or Middle Callerton
What’s happening with these routes?and btw where do you get this information from bc i have never known?
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(04 Jul 2025, 5:48 pm)BusEnthusiast.com wrote What’s happening with these routes?and btw where do you get this information from bc i have never known?
Not sure on changes.
I use this:
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.s...s-services
For each company (not posting everyone)
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD
ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD
ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD
CENTRAL TAXIS GATESHEAD LIMITED
NORTHSTAR CONSTELLATION LIMITED
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
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(04 Jul 2025, 10:02 pm)Michael wrote Not sure on changes.Thanks very much
I use this:
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.s...s-services
For each company (not posting everyone)
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD
ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD
ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD
CENTRAL TAXIS GATESHEAD LIMITED
NORTHSTAR CONSTELLATION LIMITED
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
Looks to be that there is some form of TTRO on barrack road on the 12.I’m assuming that it affects the rest of the buses that go via barrack road including the 39/40.Is there some sort of road works coming up or something like that?
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
Stagecoach are to introduce a new service in South Shields to compliment the existing service 12 that was cut from every 30 minutes to hourly in May.
The new service will be numbered 13 and will run from the Town Centre to Cleadon Park(The Lonnen) via the coast, possibly similar to the 516 if not instead of.
Watch this space....
The new service will be numbered 13 and will run from the Town Centre to Cleadon Park(The Lonnen) via the coast, possibly similar to the 516 if not instead of.
Watch this space....
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(15 Jul 2025, 4:07 pm)Retro Nero wrote Stagecoach are to introduce a new service in South Shields to compliment the existing service 12 that was cut from every 30 minutes to hourly in May.
The new service will be numbered 13 and will run from the Town Centre to Cleadon Park(The Lonnen) via the coast, possibly similar to the 516 if not instead of.
Watch this space....
Used to be both the 512 and 513 to The Lonnen, back in the day.. God, arent I old?
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(15 Jul 2025, 6:56 pm)LVK 404L wrote Used to be both the 512 and 513 to The Lonnen, back in the day.. God, arent I old?
No not really, I remember the 43,& 44,
I think the 43 was Pier Head to Watson Avenue and the 44 was The Lonnen,... Yes two separate services up Quarry Lane, and I think one went up Larch Avenue from Prince Edward Rd, ( you will have to Google Maps)..,so I think I'm bloody old
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(15 Jul 2025, 4:07 pm)Retro Nero wrote Stagecoach are to introduce a new service in South Shields to compliment the existing service 12 that was cut from every 30 minutes to hourly in May.
The new service will be numbered 13 and will run from the Town Centre to Cleadon Park(The Lonnen) via the coast, possibly similar to the 516 if not instead of.
Watch this space....
Chronicle article has a quote from Stagecoach: "A Stagecoach spokesperson said: 'We have developed a proposal in collaboration with Nexus which could provide a half-hourly bus link to Cleadon Park. This would be delivered through a combination of two bus routes, services 12 and 13 (each running hourly).'"
So they've cut the service, resisted the uproar it's created locally, and then just been handed public money to provide an additional service to make up the half hour frequency? Has this even gone through a competitive tender exercise?
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