(12 Apr 2026, 3:39 pm)SN69 ZRC wrote It would also help if they served BT Call Centre correctly too. I've seen a few just u-turn at the first roundabout rather than coming into the actual call centre and a few just not come up Salters Lane at all. There's also this one driver who refuses to wait at timing points. Both of which I've complained about and gotten no reply.
It's been a while since I've been up there in person, but looking at the imagery on Street View, I really can't see the issue with this if the bus is on time or late. You have so much visibility from that first roundabout of both the bus stops
and the pavement cut through, and it'll allow you to recoup a small amount of time. It's not ideal to deviate from a route, but it sometimes feels like drivers/operators are damned if they do and damned if they don't think on their feet and show some initiative.
Obviously early running is another matter, but I'm sure this will be picked up by the operator, if there's any substance in it.
(13 Apr 2026, 7:58 pm)PH - BQA wrote Which is within the TC definition of 'on time' - something you'd like to think certain people posting on here would know before making themselves look silly.
Some people on this forum would be in for an awful shock if they ever attempted to use a Stagecoach service with any regularity, who Northstar replaced on the 18. As someone who used Stagecoach for a year to commute, they are guilty of all the points raised in previous points and far, far more - including the below:
- Regularly leaving timing points more than 1E - including leaving the first stop on a route over 2 minutes early on multiple occasions. On some of these occasions I was aware the driver changed on that trip, so it was clearly a deliberate effort.
- Deliberately delaying services - waiting time at stops despite already late running for cigarette breaks (or equivalent).
- Buses with no working destination, and no paper in window.
- Heavily soiled seating on all fabric seat vehicles - the E300s and 58-plate E400s at Slatyford are particularly bad. Walkergate don't seem to be quite as horrific on this point.
- Speeding through estates frequently, to the point that staff had to go with a speed gun to see how quickly their drivers were going along one particular piece of road.
- Multiple drivers who should be nowhere near a customer facing role, and borderline shouldn't be on the road with the level of anger they had. One in particular who was aggressive to at least one passenger each time I boarded their bus - I've not seen him for a while though, so maybe Stagecoach management have finally seen sense.
- Severe late running on routes which didn't have timetables set by Nexus, and no action to change the timetables. Included within this are/were insane PM peak interworking patterns which for a while ensured certain services either didn't operate or were always 10+ minutes late.
- Customer services who frequently tried to gaslight passengers. For example, one day I arrived for an Eldon Square departure at (for example, because I can't remember exactly) 30 mins past the hour. I took a picture of the bus reversing off stand at 28 minutes past. They initially denied the service had left early, saying it had left at 31 mins past. Even when I sent them the picture with a timestamp they tried to deny it, before I asked them to look at the CCTV and they finally accepted they were in the wrong.
Yet you'd be forgiven for thinking Stagecoach are operating in Newcastle without issue given the severe criticism of SMEs sometimes on here. All of the above is with a far larger resource allocation and budget than an SME, too.
You can tend to categorise most of this as the result of a bad management culture.
I've not had much experience of Stagecoach, due to living off route, but I have had the misfortune of relying on Go Ahead and Arriva operations, both at the time under the control of one of this forum's favourite Managing Directors, and I recognise a lot of similarities. The lack of care, attention and detail, in particular is a bug bear of mine, and that's before you get on to woeful levels of customer service.
Some of the SME criticism often feels as the result of not agreeing with the Nexus contract award, but in the age of open data, it seems to drive people to constantly dig and look for issues. Heck, I've even done it myself if I've been irritated enough about something, but I don't think I'd feel strongly enough to trash the company online for it. It's a good job the Internet and open data wasn't really a household name in the 80s and 90s, some of the things that went on!
Of course, I'm not suggesting that all SMEs are perfect and that all big operators are bad. I've seen great and woeful examples of both, but I can confidently say that I've known Dan for long enough to know that his standards won't have slipped one bit, and he'll be working hard behind the scenes on even the slightest imperfections.