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Arriva State of The Fleet

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What's currently tracking as stockton spare?

7599 is back tracking on bus times in whitby is this correct.

Also evora 4506 has something happened to this bus as it hasn't tracked since 28th August.
RE: Arriva State of The Fleet
(10 Sep 2026, 6:26 pm)Ryland wrote What's currently tracking as stockton spare?

7599 is back tracking on bus times in whitby is this correct.

Also evora 4506 has something happened to this bus as it hasn't tracked since 28th August.

One of the Buses being tracked as spare is 1463. Unsure what the other is as its been double tracking.
RE: Arriva State of The Fleet
(10 Sep 2026, 5:32 pm)Storx wrote Guessing it's somewhere else he's posted that?

Did see that video and had a cheeky flick through, seen one of the Gemini's seems to be heading to Alnwick at Rothbury Motor's though in it.

Around 1:50 in he states some have been purchased privately (I did see that rothbury motors) and some were going to Middlesbrough for service
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(10 Sep 2026, 2:30 pm)TransitObserver wrote https://youtu.be/OYH_VV_xy5Y?is=Xtk8jIjoKAzwP6en

According to the lad that’s made this video, because of the franchising (Metro) in Merseyside Arriva have lost St Helens and Speke depots meaning some of the older Gemini 2’s that are parked up in this video have been sold privately and some are going to Middlesbrough (Stockton) for service. Unsure how true it is but yet again more second hand buses.

Speke is very much not lost, Birkenhead garage however will be lost next month or so
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(10 Sep 2026, 8:27 pm)220631612 wrote Speke is very much not lost, Birkenhead garage however will be lost next month or so

That will be interesting. I know they have a fair few vehicles which ain't really the right age to be worth scrapping. Also, I believe they have a lot of Ex Redcar Streetlites down their so I wonder what the possibility is that we see them return to Teesside to displace Pulsars. Then again, they probably need to sort out their vehicles out down south and also Streetlites are purely best at town workings. I wonder what the ownerships plan is with the company going forward as they're loosing a lot to franchising.
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(28 Jul 2026, 4:24 pm)Shrek wrote It doesn't always work that way. All new buses will be bought and allocated on the business case behind it. You quite often see some depots stuck with older cascades while the new stuff goes to the depots that make the best case for the investment. Blyth seem to be doing a good job at getting that investment at the moment.

(12 Sep 2026, 1:44 pm)TransitObserver wrote 1393 moved down to Teesside from Ashington,  anyone know if loan or permanent? 1500 moved from Blyth to Ashington and 1540 is currently at Blyth from Ashington. Any ideas what’s going on with all the transfers?

1393 is in Darlington covering for 2710 whilst its in Yorkshire. This is for a mmc 200 being at stockton for driver familiarisation.
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(12 Sep 2026, 1:46 pm)Ryland wrote 1393 is in Darlington covering for 2710 whilst its in Yorkshire. This is for a mmc 200 being at stockton for driver familiarisation.

1393 is at Darlington in a swap for one of the other MMCs (2704 I believe) for the same reason as the 1479/2711 swap last week - to give Ashington an extra mini for the 415/460 today (although this week, 3052 is on there and the loaned MMC is on the 434.

2710 was being covered by 1385 - 2710 is returning to the region tomorrow with 3002 returning to Yorkshire unused here as 3501/2 have arrived and can be used instead.
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(12 Sep 2026, 2:15 pm)Kuyoyo wrote 1393 is at Darlington in a swap for one of the other MMCs (2704 I believe) for the same reason as the 1479/2711 swap last week - to give Ashington an extra mini for the 415/460 today (although this week, 3052 is on there and the loaned MMC is on the 434.

2710 was being covered by 1385 - 2710 is returning to the region tomorrow with 3002 returning to Yorkshire unused here as 3501/2 have arrived and can be used instead.

3002 is currently parked in the yard at Darlington depot, collected by a Darlington driver from Stockton this morning, and will be taken to Castleford tomorrow morning
RE: Arriva State of The Fleet
See that there’s at least one E400MMC running around today with “on hire to Go North East” in the window. Nice to see the driver who took that out this morning did a thorough walk round inspection.
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(11 Sep 2026, 6:58 pm)solsburian wrote It's shame Blyth couldn't have got some of those Gemini 2s to see off more of their Pulsars.

tbh I wish they'd get them to displace a chunk of the E400's.

I know they're older but the likes of 7522, 7527, 7530, 7533, 7553 and 7554 are a complete waste of space right now. Might aswell cash in on them when they have value, and have some buses here which can actually work.

No doubt a chunk of 7401-6 will join the list soon aswell - already noticed 7403 is dead. Complete waste of money refurbishing those sheds imo when Liverpool are releasing hundreds of similar aged vehicles within the next 12 months which will all do a better job.
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(Yesterday, 2:18 pm)Storx wrote tbh I wish they'd get them to displace a chunk of the E400's.

I know they're older but the likes of 7522, 7527, 7530, 7533, 7553 and 7554 are a complete waste of space right now. Might aswell cash in on them when they have value, and have some buses here which can actually work.

No doubt a chunk of 7401-6 will join the list soon aswell - already noticed 7403 is dead. Complete waste of money refurbishing those sheds imo when Liverpool are releasing hundreds of similar aged vehicles within the next 12 months which will all do a better job.

X21 has been missing at least one bus all day today, and 7526 also looks to have come off. 

All 7 buses out on the 35 though.
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(Yesterday, 2:43 pm)PH - BQA wrote X21 has been missing at least one bus all day today, and 7526 also looks to have come off. 

All 7 buses out on the 35 though.

Not surprised, all this investment has done nothing at all to sort out the issues at Ashington. After going round the circles, basically the end result is 6x B9TL's which are not reliable seemingly replacing 6x Pulsar's which are reliable and absolutely nothing else.

Arguably the depot is in a worse position.

Mind it seems like they've dragged 7403 out now to sort that board but 7554 has decided it's had enough (again) on the 57 instead and now the X22 is missing a board ironically which is the 6pm out of Newcastle  Shy
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Putting it in here but it needs to be sorted out between all party's involved


Tonight till the 19th. There is a road closure in Seghill to allow a road to be relayed between 8pm & 6am.

Arriva 57A & X7 & GCT 19 are diverted

A shuttle bus is advertised in one place. The Arriva website. No mention anywhere else. No timetable anywhere

So let's talk about all 3 companies involved

Arriva, Little no mention on website. Absolutely shi£e planning that it only mentions that a shuttle bus is running yet no timetable linke

Northumberland County Council, No posters on the bus stop and the website (from what I can find) isn't mentioned anywhere

Travel North East, The website bringing all news to you (is it *****). The website does not mention anywhere at all the diversion even though 3 buses are diverted and a shuttle bus is running

This is pretty poor from all 3 party's involved in a closure. Been sent a photo of a Grey Mercedes Sprinter ran by liberty which is non psvar due to step entrance & has a little paper saying "Seaton Delaval, Seghill" this is pathetic that its nowhere. The shuttle also doesn't go to Annitsford so anyone wanting Seghill of the X7 or 57A is pretty much screwed unless they go to Seaton Delaval to catch the shuttle that may I remind you has no timetable
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(Yesterday, 4:46 pm)Storx wrote Not surprised, all this investment has done nothing at all to sort out the issues at Ashington. After going round the circles, basically the end result is 6x B9TL's which are not reliable seemingly replacing 6x Pulsar's which are reliable and absolutely nothing else.

Arguably the depot is in a worse position.

Mind it seems like they've dragged 7403 out now to sort that board but 7554 has decided it's had enough (again) on the 57 instead and now the X22 is missing a board ironically which is the 6pm out of Newcastle  Shy

Woah woah dont come on here and say the Pulsars are reliable when you have been wanting them gone for ages. Ask and you shall receive. You lot wanted rid of the Pulsars and are now seemingly wanting them to stay. Dont sit and complain that there going as thats exactly what you wanted
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(11 hours ago)Nerd4321 wrote Woah woah dont come on here and say the Pulsars are reliable when you have been wanting them gone for ages. Ask and you shall receive. You lot wanted rid of the Pulsars and are now seemingly wanting them to stay. Dont sit and complain that there going as thats exactly what you wanted

We still do want them gone, but we also don't want 7401-6/7522/7527/30/33/53/54 even more.

Buses than are condemned on the 1/57/57A or don't move at all, are as useful as a teapot for dealing with the decker issues. 

I don't know who is doing allocations but I assume it's a bunch of pen pushers using the year of registration on what stays and ignoring that they're an unreliable piece of junk. 

Personally I'd be finding anything with 4 wheels which moves and throwing them at Durham, Blyth and Ashington for the next 12 months and use the huge displacement from Merseyside to get shot of all the 14/64 Plate E400's/B9TL's, most Pulsar's and DB300's. The Streetdeck's being part of it since they're pretty new (maybe a chance to beg Kim for an electric repower?)
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(10 hours ago)Storx wrote We still do want them gone, but we also don't want 7401-6/7522/7527/30/33/53/54 even more.

Buses than are condemned on the 1/57/57A or don't move at all, are as useful as a teapot for dealing with the decker issues. 

I don't know who is doing allocations but I assume it's a bunch of pen pushers using the year of registration on what stays and ignoring that they're an unreliable piece of junk. 

Personally I'd be finding anything with 4 wheels which moves and throwing them at Durham, Blyth and Ashington for the next 12 months and use the huge displacement from Merseyside to get shot of all the 14/64 Plate E400's/B9TL's, most Pulsar's and DB300's. The Streetdeck's being part of it since they're pretty new (maybe a chance to beg Kim for an electric repower?)
7401 to 06 are pefect for the 35s and 57s sevices fair better than streetlites on them
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Northrumbra cant have every single  new buses thats built  b9s for ashington 35 57 is wise choice of bus some  places in the uk and runnin a lot older fleet
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(2 hours ago)Mark66t wrote Northrumbra cant have every single  new buses thats built  b9s for ashington 35 57 is wise choice of bus some  places in the uk and runnin a lot older fleet

The thing is they're really not these days. Bar a very small amount of B9TL's down South, the DB300's at Blyth are the oldest vehicles across the whole Arriva fleet nowadays and the 14 Plate E400's are near the bottom of the list as Arriva made a huge order of Deckers in 2015.

Btw I never mentioned new buses, with a sensible head on here personally I wish we got the 61 Plate DB300's which have just been sold in Liverpool instead. They'd be a perfect stopgap for the next 12 months when 140+ E400's 64/15 Plate E400's which most have had an easy life, 30x Streetdecks and 8x E400MMC's are released from Liverpool which can replace them.

The B9TL's and the most knackered E400's can be sold now for whoever wants them since they're shot to bits. There's no way Arriva need 180+ deckers across the regions so some newer deckers are going somewhere.
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(1 hour ago)Storx wrote The thing is they're really not these days. Bar a very small amount of B9TL's down South, the DB300's at Blyth are the oldest vehicles across the whole Arriva fleet nowadays and the 14 Plate E400's are near the bottom of the list as Arriva made a huge order of Deckers in 2015.

Btw I never mentioned new buses, with a sensible head on here personally I wish we got the 61 Plate DB300's which have just been sold in Liverpool instead. They'd be a perfect stopgap for the next 12 months when 140+ E400's 64/15 Plate E400's which most have had an easy life, 30x Streetdecks and 8x E400MMC's are released from Liverpool which can replace them.

The B9TL's and the most knackered E400's can be sold now for whoever wants them since they're shot to bits. There's no way Arriva need 180+ deckers across the regions so some newer deckers are going somewhere.
I dont. The DB300 at Blyth are absolutely shocking. How they are still here is absolutely anyone guess. They are absolutely awful. I dread anytime I go for a service amd one of them appears. They are shocking bad yet you think the E400 & Pulsars are the worst thing to ever grace Blyth & Ashington. 

Id rather a Pulsar or E400 then a horrible DB300 thats ran its course and hanging on by a thread. Absolutely worst buses ever built and yet somehow you think there better than the Pulsars & E400
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(1 hour ago)Nerd4321 wrote I dont. The DB300 at Blyth are absolutely shocking. How they are still here is absolutely anyone guess. They are absolutely awful. I dread anytime I go for a service amd one of them appears. They are shocking bad yet you think the E400 & Pulsars are the worst thing to ever grace Blyth & Ashington. 

Id rather a Pulsar or E400 then a horrible DB300 thats ran its course and hanging on by a thread. Absolutely worst buses ever built and yet somehow you think there better than the Pulsars & E400

You'll be in the minority here, the DB300's are way superior to the E400's even known they're older imo and no-one wants a Pulsar as they have capacity issues and the suspension is like a brick in comparison. 

They shouldn't still be here mind but that's because they're life expired. Neither should the E400's either though which needs a retirement to a city route.

The quicker both are gone the better imo but I'd rather have a bus (DB300) than no bus (E400)