As for the route suggestions comments/complaints, if people don't like them or appreciate them, then as with other areas, there is no-one making them join in.
They create conversation, they generate a smile - whether someone cobbles something together off the top of their head, comes up with a totally un-realistic suggestion or spends time investigating the PVR, so what, let people get on with it and put forward their ideas for discussion.
If they think a route would work, expand, question, discuss, justify and explain.
Isn't that what a forum is for - to discuss?
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