(29 May 2016, 10:34 am)Adrian wrote I don't think buses need to have bins. People just need to be civilised, and take their litter with them. It's rare that you're going somewhere that doesn't have a bin.

New buses don't have any luggage space at all. It's as simple as that. The one tiny place for them on a Streetlite has the fire extinguisher and Metro newspaper rack there, so I'd argue you couldn't put anything there for fear of obstructing the fire extinguisher. Geminis are no better mind, with a tiny bit of storage space at the front. It's as if we were spoilt with buses like Nationals and the Olympians... you could literally store suitcase upon suitcase in them.

It's an issue that hasn't gone away, so I'm not sure why manufacturers no longer include luggage space? Passengers get frustrated (and I saw quite a bit of this in Brighton), that other passengers have bags with them, and on the seat next to them. How can you channel behaviour if you're removing the solutions?

That's one thing you don't see on double deckers anymore, luggage space underneath the staircase, admittedly I can't imagine there would be much space on Arriva's low height E400's but still, would be better than that tiny bit behind the front seats which again is totally taken up by the Metro trays. The full height E400's used to have a seat under the staircase but I think it was removed from some later models because some passengers felt claustrophobic, think that is a slightly silly reason to remove a seat as not everyone who would sit there would feel like that.

Is there much difference in terms of length on the E400's as the Gemini's seem to seat about 70 passengers whereas some of the E400's can seat upto 80 seated passengers. The Sapphire 7 examples seat 76 I think but they are missing a few seats at the front upstairs which I think is to accommodate the next stop announcement screen but it also has a excellent amount of legroom between most of the seats upstairs.