(25 Oct 2016, 12:51 pm)tvd wrote Have looked at their proposals and responded.

It frustrates me how Arriva seem so reluctant to really improve the services on an evening, and although their suggestions are marginally better than nothing, they seem to have this obsession with truncating services at or with loops around Brotton or Skelton.

The X4 is a busy service, give it a chance on an evening - run it at least to Easington.  The areas south of Saltburn have no trains as alternatives.

I would also add that a 7pm last X4 from Whitby is also far too early, but they wont even consider a couple more journeys from there on a night.

I used the X4 out of Whitby about a month ago on a Saturday evening. It had been a nice day and the weather was dry/sunny. The sort of day where you have to queue for your dinner and push on to the road in the bridge, to get past people.

The bus was busy to start with, but the majority were simply using it as a local service up the hill!
Beyond this point, the driver spent a significant amount of time, waiting time.
Very few got on at the other major settlements on the journey, however those that did - again used it locally, for just a few stops.

I would say, there was an equal split between fare payers, return/day tickets and conc passes.

It would have been brilliant for me, if there were later services - it would have fitted in to my schedule better and would be something worth bearing in mind for days out in the future.

As much as I would (and I am sure many others would too) love a later service, I am not sure what the answer is if punters aren't using it.
Of course there is the argument about supply and demand, but until ANE decide to supply a later service, we will never know if there is enough demand.