(31 Oct 2016, 7:32 pm)Jamie M wrote I do not believe there is any wrongdoing. I've never have gotten to grips with the actual reasoning, but the protest was an act of enterprise level crime. They were simply depriving the business of, well, business. There are effective ways of protesting, but going about it in an obnoxious way is going to make you look like an obnoxious moron. The police were doing nothing but ensuring the protesting was not being in any scope illegal or otherwise threatening the health of a business, to which had yet to be proven as wrongful. Not deaths were there to be covered up, and it's not disputed that there are any wrongful arrests made. Perhaps the police shouldn't to have resorted to violence, if they even did. And inquiry cannot bring alive what occured 32 years ago, simply because nothing to which people wish to know is documented. It feels like the only reason this took off is because of people who feel they were treated in the wrong manner by the police have seen a glimmer of chance of sucess due to the uncovering of the tragic and catastrophic failure of the police at h'bro football. These people are chancing at the same sucess, but I very much doubt there is much that an inquest could shed light on.
I wasn't alive at the time and do not fully know the background, but this is my response from the little I do know.
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I agree with some of your points, and from what I have heard over the years, it is people like Arthur Scargill who came across as a bit of a moron, nobody comes out of this in a good light really
but It is Police procedure that needs investigating.
Orgreave: operational orders 'were wrong' - former officer
Retired police to back miners over 1984 'Battle of Orgreave'
There is a lot of questions to be answered and somebody needs to be held accountable for what happened.
I would like to know why at one point in the day possibly in the afternoon, the trouble had died down, miners were sunbathing or playing football after the Coke Plant closed for the day and the Police decided to launch an unprovoked attack on the miners.
It seems to me that nobody will come out of this in a very positive light, but The Police, Arthur Scargill, NUM, The Government of the day and the Miners need to answer questions and I believe the tactics deployed in Orgreave in some way brought about Hillsborough.
Why did a shitload of trials collapse, if there was nothing wrong with policing, people would have been sent down.
Battle of Orgreave: Police had been relishing clashes
Orgreave: Police told to use as much force as possible
I don't care whatvthe scenario is, police relishing battles, being told to use whatever force possible is just wrong, you would think it was full blown war, that is the kind of put down we'd have expected to have heard about in places like Moscow or Bucharest or Budapest pre-1989 before the Berlin Wall came down.
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