(30 Nov 2017, 6:22 pm)Andreos1 wrote I think it's fine for short trips, pain in neck (or legs/ankles/knees), for long trips.
Using the Picc line with kids, cases and bags is fine when it's empty. Pain in the neck when it's busy.
I use the Overground a lot and quite like the linear seating on that. I hope something Overground-esque comes up for tender. The 378s are a nice train.