(13 Sep 2020, 10:10 pm)Storx wrote This is probably the best place for this but it's been bugging me tonight and I can't find anything on it. Am I right in saying that the Enviro 200 MMC is effectively a 'posh' Dart (Dart 4) with a nicer frontend and some small updates over time but mostly the same bus that's been around since 1996? I think. They certainly sound the same (I know that's an engine thing obv) and have the same exact annoying rattles. Just interested since the Darts we're pretty much hated by the end by most people but just little things such as the layout and even the windows are near identical. It's really obvious on Arriva Durham's Enviro 200's.