(05 Oct 2021, 8:54 am)Dan wrote I’m not sure I’ve seen any of the alleged ‘arrogance’ that is being mooted here? Could you provide some examples, please?

You could argue that there’s been some mutual back-patting among operators within the NEbus group, showing how brilliantly things can work with better collaboration, but I’m not sure this has ever stemmed into ‘arrogance’ as you claim.

As enthusiasts on this forum, we have seen a lot of criticism of Gateshead Central Taxis, who have had a staff shortage that long pre-dated the current national labour shortage. We, as enthusiasts and indeed as customers too (in some cases), were critical of this, and recognised that customers deserved better.

We’re seeing similar levels of criticism for Go North East now - some of it justified, perhaps not all. Peter quite succinctly made that point above.


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You mean you've not heard any comments from colleagues or seen any comments or emails about these other operators?
Howay man Dan. I thought a guy like yourself would have his finger on the button and know exactly what is being said and who has been saying it. 

GCT did have a shortage. High staff sickness levels and people leaving due to poor management/low wages allegedly.
All during a pandemic. 
I'm not sure the issues are unique or exclusive to them either.
Maybe their lack of back office staff or a smaller engineering base, allowed it to come to the fore prior to a larger organisation who had people performing roles different to the one they normally carry out? Like engineers driving on a weekend or commercial team members out on an evening.

We all know the industry has had traditionally high attrition levels. It has done for years. 
You just need to look at the driver training fleet, open days and recruitment events held by GNE. If attrition was low - it could be argued that those events wouldn't be needed and the training fleet wouldn't be as hard pushed as they have been.