(14 Oct 2021, 4:36 pm)Dan wrote I think the change to service 20 has some merit - but I wonder how many of Stagecoach's customers on this route actually travel to the (new) Civic Centre?

In my experience of using this service, a lot of passengers are elderly and alight at Vine Place. The temporary re-routing via Stockton Road and Burdon Road came at the detriment of those passengers and forced them to walk from near Park Lane Interchange to Holmeside, and this will now do the same (albeit from Fawcett Street). The layover period at Fawcett Street doesn't make waiting on the bus to travel to Holmeside particularly attractive.

The 20 has a distinct travel pattern, most people alight at St. Michael's/High Street West or Grange Terrace/Stockton Road. People complain enough when the service is a couple of minutes early and terminates on Burdon Road instead of Fawcett Street. The change won't sit well with people faced with two crossings of St. Mary's, and as much as this barmpot council thinks they can focus the town centre on High Street West and the Vaux site , they can't. People still shop daily here, Jacky White's market, Blandford Street, Wilkos... Showing them where £84m of council tax money is vanishing will really please em 

And a further aside, the layover will now come on John Street, which at times can get pretty crowded opposite the old court, which can be a problem as there is still a live bus stop there!

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(14 Oct 2021, 7:52 pm)ThomasBooth123 wrote John street is dead so is Fawcett street tbh just wilko and the post office I do find it strange the way they put the 20

Look at the general demographic, Wilko's and the Post Office are two of the main destinations for pax from Pennywell/Hylton Road.