(26 Jan 2022, 5:44 pm)Andreos1 wrote I think the SNE network works as it does, cos it doesn't take someone an hour plus to get to work or the shops. 
They can get from a - b pretty easily.

Using Newcastle as an example. 
Newburn to Quorum. 
Killingworth to the Business Park... You get the gist.

The footprint of the network is pretty small vs ANE or GNE and if someone does need to change buses, they're not sitting there for the best part of an hour on the first leg.

It's stable because it works.

However, when you compare it to Shields, Sunderland and Hartlepool, I'm not sure I am of the same opinion.

I've kept quiet on these rumoured changes on purpose. It's well documented what I think GNE do and don't need to do. They're seemingly sticking with the slashing method and I'm not convinced it's the right method.

Aye totally get what your saying and honestly don't disagree about it tbh.

(26 Jan 2022, 8:23 pm)Omega54 wrote Oh sorry, I withdraw my comment, I thought he meant reducing it by 20% to 5%, 5% is still a massive percentage. 

Company make 50 million (pre pandemic), 2022, 70% which is 35 million, drop that by 5%, now down to 30 million.

Revenue: 150m
Costs: 140m
Profit: 10m

Reduction by 20%

Revenue: 120m
Costs: 140m
Loss: 20m

Just saying

(26 Jan 2022, 8:50 pm)L469 YVK wrote The Coast Road is a funny one. Whilst the 306/308 have been stable, GNE have seriously upped their game on the 309/310/311 since 2013 and certainly 2016 onwards.

If anything other than minor changes, I see no reductions to the 309/310/311 as at most, a PVR of 3x would be saved unless GNE made very deep cuts. And given Arriva's potential circmstances (Jesmond Depot) and the need to review and streamline things, GNE would be wise to take advantage of that unless BSIP actually comes in.

But why should they 'take advantage of it'. It's a horrible selfish attitude and it's partly the reason they're in the mess they are anyway. Just because you use the 311, those buses shouldn't be there to be frankly honest. They offer nothing bar petty competition. The sad thing is if Arriva did do streamlining, it'll be some other community, somewhere like Amble because it happens to be in the middle of nowhere getting the brunt of it but you won't care as it's not your area.

GoNorthEast don't have a network in North Tyneside anymore. The 1 during the day only, the 41 Monday - Friday during the day only and a few routes along a horribly congested road competing against someone else isn't a network. If GNE wasn't there, you could make the argument Arriva would make more profit and could potentially attempt to make some of the local routes commercial like the 11 in particular.

I might be being brutal but there's no need for GoNorthEast anymore, you could get arid of the 309 tomorrow and there'd be a very very small minority who would be affected similar with the 311 if the 310 served Hadrian Park all day.