(26 Jan 2022, 9:07 pm)Storx wrote Aye totally get what your saying and honestly don't disagree about it tbh.


Revenue: 150m
Costs: 140m
Profit: 10m

Reduction by 20%

Revenue: 120m
Costs: 140m
Loss: 20m

Just saying


But why should they 'take advantage of it'. It's a horrible selfish attitude and it's partly the reason they're in the mess they are anyway. Just because you use the 311, those buses shouldn't be there to be frankly honest. They offer nothing bar petty competition. The sad thing is if Arriva did do streamlining, it'll be some other community, somewhere like Amble because it happens to be in the middle of nowhere getting the brunt of it but you won't care as it's not your area.

GoNorthEast don't have a network in North Tyneside anymore. The 1 during the day only, the 41 Monday - Friday during the day only and a few routes along a horribly congested road competing against someone else isn't a network. If GNE wasn't there, you could make the argument Arriva would make more profit and could potentially attempt to make some of the local routes commercial like the 11 in particular.

I might be being brutal but there's no need for GoNorthEast anymore, you could get arid of the 309 tomorrow and there'd be a very very small minority who would be affected similar with the 311 if the 310 served Hadrian Park all day.

Go North East are my favourite operator, but they don't really have much to offer besides cheaper fares when only their services. They don't have a solid network in Newcastle or North Tyneside (although I would argue their Cobalts are better than Arriva's 306/308 and if the 309 journey time was equal to Arriva's 308 for Whitley Bay it would be even better. Personally I'd send Arriva through Cobalt and GNE via 306/308 routes). Hexham is best accessed by train and the 685 is far more established, the Hexham minibus network should be operated by an independent. South Tyneside is mainly Stagecoach territory but Durham services need to remain GNE as Durham and Gateshead are GNE's strongest territories. Really Sunderland is Stagecoach territory for the most part.

Without GNE the gaps could be filled, Weardale in Consett, Stanley Travel in Gateshead (maybe A-Line too). Of course Stagecoach in Newcastle, Arriva in North Tyneside. Durham maybe Arriva? Stagecoach or Arriva would be a bigger loss.