(26 Jan 2022, 11:23 pm)DaveFromUpNorth wrote Public transport on arriva and GNE despite the regular services along the coast road are actually doing its purpose  and having bums on seats.

You may critise GNE and tell them to give up!

Tell NUFC to give up and leave the football league as they are in the relegation  zone it's the same philosophy

I saw in previous  posts Dan explaining and defending the decision to extend services and tweaking them

We should not be on this forum promoting the abolishing of bus services and companies from areas because as soon as they go and the competition is removed that competition will not return even decades later we have routes that have never been restored think of OK bus services as an example.

We haven't seen those services back have we?

What you also have to remember  is speculation and and encouraging companies to leave a particular  region means  a strategic consideration along with job losses for drivers

What I have read tonight is basically slagging off GNE

There is tough decisions about this budget meeting on 2 February 2022!

If you live in Tyne And Wear contact your local NECTA Representative if you have ideas on how Nexus can increase the revenue.

There has also been criticism with GCT operating services.

Tonight has given me an insight on doing some hypothetical maths and it looks like to run an hourly secured service with one bus on an hourly route is about £40 an hour .  Instead of attacking we should realistically look at how to increase passengers onto a service that Costs about £40 an hour to run at least  i do agree with Dan on why little tweeks to services is the future as oppose to new services

Cutting services and removing operators from an area in 5 years time we see a service issue going from 10min to 20min to 30min then hourly

Remember before covid

Services to estates in CLS were operated by Scarlet Band every 2 hours!

In the countryside they have one service a day in each direction

We should be fighting for more services if we are enthuisasts not less!

For every one bus that is removed from service is about 2-3 bus drivers job loss and the knock on effect on labour hours elsewhere

I hope we are not promoting job losses are we?

Sorry for chapter 1 on War and Peace... if you have never read the book it's a good read and apologies for the rant.

I agree with what your saying in principal but this is different to other areas. GNE have left their area on their own accord so it's not the same as OK Buses etc. 

The 4 core routes which they have left in North Tyneside the 1/309/310/311 are covered by other operators mainly and the sections which aren't would quickly be picked up (I'm not advocating a drop out immediately without selling up etc). They would never be dropping to hourly though.

The 309 in particular is a right nuisance for Arriva and offers very little unique. £3.90 for a 308 ticket I believe it is nowadays which is too cheap. Without the 309 that could be increased to a more realistic price say £5.40 (which is good value) which is an extra few pounds not to mention the punters stolen on the 309 as it's all it is pretty much (used to be a joint operation). 

With that extra money and the fact you've got everyone with the same ticket then possibly they could look at bringing some of the links which are now or are soon going to public funded. 

This is purely North Tyneside only, not other areas which I disagree that they should be selling up.