(20 Feb 2022, 3:52 pm)mb134 wrote Not that they won't opt for ZF now that they can have stop start with a ZF setup, but the current MMCs with Voith 'boxes are fantastic performers on anything they're thrown at. Reasonably good acceleration on stop-start work, but equally more than happy sitting at 60 on dual carriageways.

Funnily enough, Voiths would be ideal for the exact routes (bar the X10) that GNE use their E400MMCs on for the likes of Lobley Hill Bank, Dunston Bank, parts of Derwentside etc. Likewise, Stagecoach use them as they're off the mark around the doors. Flat out though, ZF is a better performer.

Arriva with their Dennis Tridents/E400/E400MMC went:

- Dennis Trident ALX400 - Voith
- Enviro 400 Classic - ZF
- Enviro 400 MMC - Voith

The only reason Arriva went with Voith on the MMC was because stop/start wasn't available with the ZF Ecolife back in 2017. But has been an option since 2019 (as seen with GoNE/EY & Transdev).