(23 May 2022, 10:24 am)Ambassador wrote Similar thing but not similar as I sat on a 21 yesterday....bus stops in awkward places that cause delays .

2 examples - both in Gateshead.

The stop at Civic Centre - if a passenger gets off there it inevitably causes the bus to miss the lights and end up waiting another 3-5 minutes before they change again plus holding up whatever bus is behind it.

Similarly to Askew Road and the infamous bus lane - if the bus stops there and misses that green light, its a hell of a wait for the signal change

I don't think I've ever been on a bus that's got through those lights anyway. I, and pretty much everybody else on the bus, uses those lights to go downstairs ready to get off at Gateshead

I get the impression that there's a sensor that changes it to red when it detects a bus rather than the other way round!