(24 Jul 2022, 9:45 pm)Storx wrote tbf 20 isn't bad numbers really for such a short route. Believe it's just over 30 minutes end to end so that's like 40 passengers per hour on a bus. There won't be many GNE services higher than that.

Anything above 20 starts to get cosy on a single decker imo.

I agree as someone who gets the 4/8/78/60/X20/65/50 quite often it certainly does especially on the X20 as the Citaro layout is quite bad.

Because I was thinking about this, on a route which takes 60 mins, you need atleast around 15-20 passengers, say they all pay avg. £1.50, 

10 - £15
12 - £18
15 - £22.50
20 - £30 

£15 say driver gets paid £12, £3 for fuel/bus insurance probs won't make money, where as as it gets to 12-20 people per bus per hour it will. 

I look at the 55/62, they are 60 mins, and 75 mins, if they got them down to 40 mins and 60 mins, needing only a PVR of 3 & 2. But aswell It shocks me with the 62 taking 75 mins, why didn't they extend it upto Parkside, or through Tunstall/Leechmere to get it to 90 mins to try and get the most passengers possible