RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
(12 Sep 2022, 10:56 pm)Storx wrote tbf. that's more ticketing issues though. There should be ticketing between 2 and the BSIP should sort that out. There's too many buses on that corridor and the 61 is the one that's getting the bullet with frequency reductions. In an ideal world the fact it's Arriva / GNE needs to be made irrelevant.
Having 2 operators on one corridor never benefits anyone though really, it's the same with the Coast Road. It's ridiculous how many buses there are between Ryhope/Leechmere and Sunderland though, there's no need for 19 buses an hour in parts which I believe it is in normal times excluding the Stagecoach 10/11 and X6.
Similar there's no need for 11 buses from West Seaham to Sunderland either.
Currently 2x 2, 2x 2A, 1x 22, 1x 23, 4x 39s, 4x 60, 2x 61; so 16 buses per hour - HOWEVER, that is only true for a few stops (Ocean Road - Vilette Road). The 2 joins at Toll Bar Road, 2A at Grangetown, and the 2, 2A and 39s leave at Vilette Road. Equally, is there much need for Old Durham Road to have 14 bph into Newcastle (18 if you add the X1)? I don't know the area too much but it seems a pretty similar situation to me, yet I don't see many people bringing it up. Thing is, all those services connect Sunderland with somewhere else and it just happens that in most cases, Ryhope Road is the quickest and most convenient route. Having said that, diverting some journeys on the 60 (as a 60A or 62 also going to Murton) via QA Road to the Hospital wouldn't hurt anyone, and frankly a direct bus from Murton/Seaham to the hospital would be very useful. Also the 60 needs to be at least every 12 minutes, it's just too busy otherwise, especially if there's a cancellation.
(13 Sep 2022, 5:18 am)Unber43 wrote I think there is only 9, 5 60's, 2 61's, 1 22, 1 23.
Like I stated before 22/23 don't pick up anyone between Dalton Park and Sunderland. so really its 7.
Clearly there is a need for the 60/61 at 6, Hopefully back upto 7 per hour at the end of October. I don't think the 22/23 will go back upto every 15 mins, I think the 22 Might, but not the 23. Realistically 22/23/24 would all be ran by GNE. Especially the Sunderland to Durham part
Might be true from what you've seen but it isn't - there's been a couple of times I've been on a 61 playing leap frog with an arriva bus.
