(10 Jan 2023, 5:50 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Efficiency = cost though.

One way I can see hydrogen 'beating' battery in buses is in the cost of the vehicle.
The biggest cost of a BEV is in the name, the battery!

To scale up the range of a BEV, you scale up the battery, which requires scaling up every part of it.

To scale up the range of a HEV, you just need to scale up the site of the tank, the expensive part (the fuel cell) stays the same.

Now, a hydrogen fuel cell isn't exactly cheap, but when the costs come down, I could envisage them dropping at a much higher rate than batteries will continue to.

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Aye that's true but you have to think if they're charging buses for 10 minutes in a bus station every 4 runs lets say that's efficiency going out the window aswell as that's a bus off the road. Obviously I know there's the argument for layover anyway but if it comes in late like some buses do pretty much every run then that could be an interesting debate.

What you mean we can't go I'm sitting on the f**king bus I could see be a popular complaint.

Guess it all depends on the price of Hydrogen vs Pure Electric aswell long term aswell. Lot's of things but I genuinely do think Hydrogen will be the future, especially since it's just easier without having to charge them etc. Not to mention batteries degrade, be interesting to see if they reduce in range over time which will be a very expensive upgrade potentially mid life (or an early withdrawal).