(16 Feb 2023, 8:37 pm)DeltaMan wrote Taking even a small profit element out you would be looking at well over £6 per passenger!

So what is an acceptable level of per passenger subsidy irrespective of operating model?

Surely it should be based on whether it's serving an area with no service at all which with the case of 79A is for large areas of the route vs how many passengers.

There's too many routes ie the W2 which duplicates the 51 for most the route and the bit it doesn't it's a 5 minute walk to the Coast to do the same routes; or the 82 duplicating the 25/28 for most of the route. I understand that some people will have to change but the link is there.

Similar could be said for the 335 between Murton and North Shields which duplicates the 53/317 two routes which are struggling as it is with a max 5 minute walk for the stops not served.

Services like that should not be ran, personally for the 82 I'd rather see it run to Kibblesworth and maybe to Team Valley and create important links which are near impossible now with the loss of the 28A and restore the Kibblesworth link which has just been butchered. If it has less punters then so, it serves a purpose.