(15 Mar 2023, 6:36 pm)Washingtonian wrote I liked all those to be honest, although I hated it when a breadvan would turn up on a busy route.

Some of the electric vehicles look good, particularly the Alexander Dennis bodied ones but the majority have a boring look about them and just basically a box on wheels. One of the enjoyable things about being on a bus is listening to the engine and gear changes - something that gives them character. Some of these electric vehicles make some awful noises. I remember seeing a video of a demo one and it sounded absolutely dreadful

See I've never liked the noise of the Allison gearbox find them boring like sitting in a van pretty much and they all have them and for some reason they always seem to have idle problems aswell. The Vario's were particularly bad for it.

Can't beat the whine of a proper Voith even known some will disagree massively with that and a good old ZF. They're a bit dull nowadays aswell though tbh.

The mid 00's Voith in particular is very tuneful which was in the 3 Commanders at Blyth and the DB250's about. Shame we didn't get many with it up here though with GoNorthEast and Stagecoach both mostly getting ZF's and Arriva getting nothing at all.