(15 Mar 2023, 7:27 pm)Storx wrote See I've never liked the noise of the Allison gearbox find them boring like sitting in a van pretty much and they all have them and for some reason they always seem to have idle problems aswell. The Vario's were particularly bad for it.

Can't beat the whine of a proper Voith even known some will disagree massively with that and a good old ZF. They're a bit dull nowadays aswell though tbh.

The mid 00's Voith in particular is very tuneful which was in the 3 Commanders at Blyth and the DB250's about. Shame we didn't get many with it up here though with GoNorthEast and Stagecoach both mostly getting ZF's and Arriva getting nothing at all.